CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-11 Thread David Law
Hello List, about 18 months ago we recommended cygwin as a unix-like environment for a Windows 2003 Server to our Admin. This was turned down on the grounds that it did not satisfy the security requirements of our organisation. (unfortunately I don't know the details as I wasn't involved in the

Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread Csaba Raduly
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:36 AM, David Law wrote: (snip) > > Firstly, I was wondering if SUA maybe has a reputation for > bad performance, or could it maybe be the architecture of > desktop contra server pc's? > Would you expect better performance from cygwin? > I was involved in porting a project

Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 12 11:24, Csaba Raduly wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:36 AM, David Law wrote: > (snip) > > > > Firstly, I was wondering if SUA maybe has a reputation for > > bad performance, or could it maybe be the architecture of > > desktop contra server pc's? > > Would you expect better performance

Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread David Law
Did anyone have any thoughts about the security side of the question: do I have more, less or exactly the same rights? Best regards, DaveLaw - original message Subject: CygWin Security & Performance Issues Sent: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 From: David Law > Hello List, > > ab

Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread Corinna Vinschen
Please don't http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#TOFU On Aug 12 14:33, David Law wrote: > Did anyone have any thoughts about the security side of the question: > do I have more, less or exactly the same rights? Yes. Cygwin is just a user space DLL, not an OS. If you're an admin user not running unde

Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread David Law
Here is the so-called "definition" of TOFU: "Text Over, Full-quote Under (or, in the original German, "Text Oben, Fullquote Unten"). A combination of top posting and full quoting, which makes the messages hard to read (accoring to RFC 1855). Often combined with raw e-mail addresses in quoted mes

Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread David Law
, David Law wrote: > > > > Please don't... > > ... waste peoples time with meaningless acronyms. > > > > Best regards, > > DaveLaw > > > > - original message ---- > > > > Subject: Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues &g

Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 12 16:47, David Law wrote: > (Oh, by the way, for those of you who don't speak German, > "Text Oben, Fullquote Unten" is just as meaningless) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOFU http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOFU Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cyg

Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread Jeremy Bopp
On 8/12/2010 9:48 AM, David Law wrote: > Yes, go & waste someone elses time instead. > > I got exactly the information I needed for my meeting tomorrow. Is it too much to hope that what you got is, "Don't use Cygwin. They had the nerve to *ask* me to conform to their list posting rules, and that

Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread Andrew Schulman
> Yes, go & waste someone elses time instead. So your time was wasted, and yet ... > I got exactly the information I needed for my meeting tomorrow. ... with never a word of thanks, only insults. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com

Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:00:02AM -0500, Jeremy Bopp wrote: >On 8/12/2010 9:48 AM, David Law wrote: >> Yes, go & waste someone elses time instead. >> >> I got exactly the information I needed for my meeting tomorrow. > >Is it too much to hope that what you got is, "Don't use Cygwin. They >had th

Re: CygWin Security ; Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 02:29:27PM -0400, Robert Jacobson wrote: >On 8/12/2010 10:02 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>Ok, I'll not waste my time and reply to you another time. That makes >>both of us happy. > >Is this what passes for professional behavior at Red Hat? This is off-topic. If you want

Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread DaveLaw
Maybe the co-leader of the project should channel her efforts into just that, rather than getting peoples backs up with unnecessary nitpicking about how she thinks they should structure their emails. Best Regards, DaveLaw On 12.08.2010 21:15, Spiro Trikaliotis wrote: * On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at

Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:17:44PM +0200, DaveLaw wrote: >Maybe the co-leader of the project should channel her efforts into just >that, rather than getting peoples backs up with unnecessary nitpicking >about how she thinks they should structure their emails. Welcome to the cygwin mailing list den

Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-13 Thread Csaba Raduly
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > Really?  As far as I understood from the docs, SUA is rather styled > after SVR4. Looks like I got it into my head that if a Unix isn't GNU, it must be BSD. Obviously, I was wrong * * "Wrong," said Renner. "The tactful way," Rod said

Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-13 Thread Gary
Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:17:44PM +0200, DaveLaw wrote: >>Maybe the co-leader of the project should channel her efforts into just >>that, rather than getting peoples backs up with unnecessary nitpicking >>about how she thinks they should structure their emails. > > Welc

Re: Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread David Law
You're fighting a battle thats already lost. :-) (as you would know if you had understood the german wiki) Best Regards, DaveLaw - original message Subject: Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues Sent: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 From: Corinna Vinschen > On Aug 12 16:47, Dav

Re: Re: CygWin Security & Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 12 17:06, David Law wrote: > You're fighting a battle thats already lost. :-) > (as you would know if you had understood the german wiki) David, I don't care. Use my reply to your OP in your meeting and be happy. You're welcome, Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, sen