Re: Cygwin Everyone group permissions and Vista "shared files" (*not* shared folders)

2008-11-14 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Barry Kelly wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: If that's not feasible, switch off ntsec and you get standard Windows permissions. If the standard Windows permissions are not as you need them, don't rely on Cygwin's chown/chmod. rather change the inheritence settings of the parent directory accordi

Re: Cygwin Everyone group permissions and Vista "shared files" (*not* shared folders)

2008-11-14 Thread Barry Kelly
Corinna Vinschen wrote: > If that's not feasible, switch off ntsec and you get standard Windows > permissions. If the standard Windows permissions are not as you need > them, don't rely on Cygwin's chown/chmod. rather change the inheritence > settings of the parent directory according to your nee

Re: Cygwin Everyone group permissions and Vista "shared files" (*not* shared folders)

2008-11-14 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Nov 13 15:28, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: Barry Kelly wrote: Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: Barry Kelly wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: I, for one, use Cygwin not primarily as a POSIX emulation layer, but as my main Windows user interface. IMHO in this situation, being p

Re: Cygwin Everyone group permissions and Vista "shared files" (*not* shared folders)

2008-11-14 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov 13 15:28, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: > Barry Kelly wrote: >> Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: >>> Barry Kelly wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: I, for one, use Cygwin not primarily as a POSIX emulation layer, but as my main Windows user interface. IMHO in this situation, being pos

Re: Cygwin Everyone group permissions and Vista "shared files" (*not* shared folders)

2008-11-13 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Barry Kelly wrote: Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: Barry Kelly wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: I, for one, use Cygwin not primarily as a POSIX emulation layer, but as my main Windows user interface. IMHO in this situation, being posixly correct is a handicap that Cygwin could do without, at the use

Re: Cygwin Everyone group permissions and Vista "shared files" (*not* shared folders)

2008-11-13 Thread Barry Kelly
Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: > Barry Kelly wrote: > > Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > > I, for one, use Cygwin not primarily as a POSIX emulation layer, but as > > my main Windows user interface. IMHO in this situation, being posixly > > correct is a handicap that Cygwin could do without, at the user

Re: Cygwin Everyone group permissions and Vista "shared files" (*not* shared folders)

2008-11-11 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Barry Kelly wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: No, it's not feasible. If you leave out the Everyone ACE, the permissions are not POSIX-like anymore. Leaving out means that others have no permissions at all. Not even to see the permissions. That's not correct from a POSIX POV. Even if others

Re: Cygwin Everyone group permissions and Vista "shared files" (*not* shared folders)

2008-11-10 Thread Barry Kelly
Corinna Vinschen wrote: > No, it's not feasible. If you leave out the Everyone ACE, the > permissions are not POSIX-like anymore. Leaving out means that others > have no permissions at all. Not even to see the permissions. That's > not correct from a POSIX POV. > Even if others don't have rwx

Re: Cygwin Everyone group permissions and Vista "shared files" (*not* shared folders)

2008-11-10 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov 9 23:13, charles5687 wrote: > Corinna Vinschen-2 wrote: > > The real answer is: It can't be prevented and there are no plans to add > > code to prevent it, since these read permissions are required to get > > POSIX-like permissions. > > I'm not sure I follow. Does this mean there are no p

Re: Cygwin Everyone group permissions and Vista "shared files" (*not* shared folders)

2008-11-09 Thread charles5687
Corinna Vinschen-2 wrote: > > On Sep 29 18:52, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > The real answer is: It can't be prevented and there are no plans to add > code to prevent it, since these read permissions are required to get > POSIX-like permissions. > > I'm not sure I follow. Does this mean there

Re: Cygwin Everyone group permissions and Vista "shared files" (*not* shared folders)

2008-11-09 Thread charles5687
Corinna Vinschen-2 wrote: > > On Sep 29 18:52, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > The real answer is: It can't be prevented and there are no plans to add > code to prevent it, since these read permissions are required to get > POSIX-like permissions. > > I'm not sure I follow. Does this mean there

Re: Cygwin Everyone group permissions and Vista "shared files" (*not* shared folders)

2008-09-30 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Sep 29 18:52, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Sep 9 07:47, Barry Kelly wrote: > > Unfortunately, Cygwin creates an ACE for the group Everyone, even with > > umask 0077, or after chmod 0700 is applied. Specifically, this is what > > it looks like using cacls: > > > > Everyone:

Re: Cygwin Everyone group permissions and Vista "shared files" (*not* shared folders)

2008-09-29 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Sep 9 07:47, Barry Kelly wrote: > Unfortunately, Cygwin creates an ACE for the group Everyone, even with > umask 0077, or after chmod 0700 is applied. Specifically, this is what > it looks like using cacls: > > Everyone:(special access:) > REA

Cygwin Everyone group permissions and Vista "shared files" (*not* shared folders)

2008-09-08 Thread Barry Kelly
Cygwin by default, tries to implement POSIX permissions using the NT ACL system - fairly well described here: http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html The way this feature is implemented interacts poorly with Vista, however. A previous mailing (with reply) on this list that tried to describe