MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-08 Thread Andy Koppe
Hi, MinTTY release 0.3.3 is available from http://code.google.com/p/mintty. It fixes the following bugs: - The "Disable transparency when active" feature caused the window to flicker on XP - The "Alt key on its own sends ^[" setting was ignored, i.e. Alt alone always sent the ESC character - T

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-08 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 11:17:15PM +, Andy Koppe wrote: > ps: Is this the appropriate list for such announcements? Given that you are intending to package this for the real distribution, yes. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http:/

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-09 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Andy Koppe (Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:17:15 +) > > MinTTY release 0.3.3 is available from http://code.google.com/p/mintty. > It fixes the following bugs: > [...] > I've started looking into packaging and cygport, but it might still be a > little while. I'll try to submit something before startin

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-09 Thread Danilo Turina
Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Andy Koppe (Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:17:15 +) MinTTY release 0.3.3 is available from http://code.google.com/p/mintty. It fixes the following bugs: [...] I've started looking into packaging and cygport, but it might still be a little while. I'll try to submit something be

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Lemke
Danilo Turina alcatel-lucent.it> writes: > > Thorsten Kampe wrote: > > * Andy Koppe (Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:17:15 +) > >> MinTTY release 0.3.3 is available from http://code.google.com/p/mintty. > >> It fixes the following bugs: > >> [...] > >> I've started looking into packaging and cygport, b

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-09 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Michael Lemke wrote: I just don't get it. What's wrong with rxvt? I've been using it for years as my only terminal for cygwin and never understood why it isn't the default. While I agree, rxvt does have problems with programs written for the DOS style console output (e.g. cleartool from IBM/Ra

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-09 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 10:21:42PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > Michael Lemke wrote: >> I just don't get it. What's wrong with rxvt? I've been using it for years >> as my only terminal for cygwin and never understood why it isn't the >> default. > While I agree, rxvt does have problems with pr

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Andy Koppe
Michael Lemke wrote: I just don't get it. What's wrong with rxvt? I've been using it for years as my only terminal for cygwin and never understood why it isn't the default. I tried mintty the other day but couldn't find anything rxvt isn't doing. MinTTY's main distinctions compared to rxvt

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Andy Koppe
Danilo Turina wrote: Thorsten Kampe wrote: I WANT TABS!! Well if tabs get in, I'll throw mrxvt out of the window (or out of the X-Window?). Sorry guys, I'm afraid there's no chance of me implementing those. See http://code.google.com/p/mintty/issues/detail?id=8 I think something like Win

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread KHMan
Andy Koppe wrote: Danilo Turina wrote: Thorsten Kampe wrote: I WANT TABS!! Well if tabs get in, I'll throw mrxvt out of the window (or out of the X-Window?). Sorry guys, I'm afraid there's no chance of me implementing those. See http://code.google.com/p/mintty/issues/detail?id=8 I think

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 10:21:42PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Michael Lemke wrote: I just don't get it. What's wrong with rxvt? I've been using it for years as my only terminal for cygwin and never understood why it isn't the default. While I agree, rxvt does have p

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Andy Koppe wrote: Michael Lemke wrote: I just don't get it. What's wrong with rxvt? I've been using it for years as my only terminal for cygwin and never understood why it isn't the default. I tried mintty the other day but couldn't find anything rxvt isn't doing. MinTTY's main distinctions

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:35:44AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 10:21:42PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >>> Michael Lemke wrote: I just don't get it. What's wrong with rxvt? I've been using it for years as my only terminal for cygwin

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Christopher Faylor wrote: This is YA point that has already been made. You are not adding anything new here. I'm not sure that a "YA" is - the closest I see is Yaakov but he didn't say anything about this AFAICT. In any event I feel I am adding something, which was a reason why both of these al

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Andy Koppe
Andrew DeFaria wrote: What is the native Windows look and feel other than the Window frame? - scrollbar - right-click menu (also reachable via menu key) - options dialog, with font and colour selectors - copy&paste behaviour (copy-on-demand, Ctrl-Ins copies, shift-left click extends) - drag&

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:40:35PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > Christopher Faylor wrote: >>This is YA point that has already been made. You are not adding >>anything new here. > >I'm not sure that a "YA" is - the closest I see is Yaakov but he didn't >say anything about this AFAICT. In any eve

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Andy Koppe wrote: Andrew DeFaria wrote: What is the native Windows look and feel other than the Window frame? - scrollbar - right-click menu (also reachable via menu key) - options dialog, with font and colour selectors - copy&paste behaviour (copy-on-demand, Ctrl-Ins copies, shift-left click

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:40:35PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: This is YA point that has already been made. You are not adding anything new here. I'm not sure that a "YA" is - the closest I see is Yaakov but he didn't say anything about this

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Matt Wozniski
Andrew DeFaria wrote: > Andy Koppe wrote: >> Andrew DeFaria wrote: >>> Andy Koppe wrote: and the options dialog (which among other things allows you to configure it in an Xish way). >>> >>> What could be more Xish then X Resources, which rxvt pays total attention >>> to? >> >> That point

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 04:10:53PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Out of here... If only that was really true. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ:

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread newsletter
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 04:10:53PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Out of here... If only that was really true. cgf mmm Linux is about choice and not being forced to use a limited set of tools. If rxvt works for you than that's fine - use it. don't knock

RE: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> From: Christopher Faylor > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 04:10:53PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > >Out of here... > > If only that was really true. > > cgf I thought there was a specific mailing list where such Cygwin-related-content-free urinating contests were more appropriately held. I must h

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 09:00:06PM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: >> From: Christopher Faylor >> >> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 04:10:53PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >> >Out of here... >> >> If only that was really true. > >I thought there was a specific mailing list where such >Cygwin-related-co

RE: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-10 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> From: Christopher Faylor > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 09:00:06PM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > >> From: Christopher Faylor > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 04:10:53PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > >> >Out of here... > >> > >> If only that was really true. > > > >I thought there was a sp

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-11 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Matt Wozniski wrote: What you seem to have misunderstood is that when Andy said "configure it in an x-ish way", he didn't mean "configure it with x resources like some x applications", he meant "configure it to behave like most x terminal emulators wrt selection, copying, pasting, etc". I see,

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-11 Thread Lee D. Rothstein
newsletter wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 04:10:53PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Out of here... If only that was really true. cgf mmm Linux is about choice and not being forced to use a limited set of tools. If rxvt works for you than that's fine - us

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-03-05 Thread bjoe
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 03:36:45PM +1300, newsletter wrote: > > Linux is about choice and not being forced to use a limited set of > tools. If rxvt works for you than that's fine - use it. don't knock the > alternatives. Agree > personally I like mintty and it has become my terminal of choice -

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-03-08 Thread Andy Koppe
> What I found missing in Mintty is putty feature to start duplicate > session (more welcome with hot-keys) Since MinTTY doesn't have sessions like Putty, I didn't think there was much point in keeping this. Desktop and quickstart shortcuts already provide quick ways to open a new MinTTY window, a

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-03-14 Thread bjoe
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 09:37:03PM +, Andy Koppe wrote: > > What I found missing in Mintty is putty feature to start duplicate > > session (more welcome with hot-keys) > > Since MinTTY doesn't have sessions like Putty, I didn't think there > was much point in keeping this. It's because you re

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-03-14 Thread Charles Wilson
bjoe wrote: > It's because you remove networking function from putty, right. IMHO > this feature will help many user (especially who come from Windows > word) and will give sort of additional point for Mintty (regarding > flame war between mintty and rxvt). What flame war? If you like mintty, us

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-03-30 Thread bjoe
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 01:46:23PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: > bjoe wrote: > > > It's because you remove networking function from putty, right. IMHO > > this feature will help many user (especially who come from Windows > > word) and will give sort of additional point for Mintty (regarding > >

MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Charles Wilson
Christopher Faylor wrote: > Just to contribute something useful: Chuck Wilson, if you are reading > this, am I correct in assuming that you don't enjoy maintaining the > Windows version of rxvt? Well, it's my main terminal. I tried MinTTY and I'm not sure yet whether it will supplant rxvt for my p

Duplicate mintty window (was: Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-03-16 Thread Andy Koppe
bjoe wrote: >> > What I found missing in Mintty is putty feature to start duplicate >> > session (more welcome with hot-keys) >> >> Since MinTTY doesn't have sessions like Putty, I didn't think there >> was much point in keeping this. > > It's because you remove networking function from putty, righ

Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Andy Koppe
Charles Wilson wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: If so, should we consider deprecating rxvt in favor of MinTTY when MinTTY becomes a real package? If not, there is no harm in keeping two packages in the distribution. I was just trying to lighten your load if you were interested. I'd lean towa

Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Charles Wilson
Andy Koppe wrote: > How about just providing Start Menu shortcuts for all installed > terminals in a "Cygwin" folder, much like Yaakov has done in MinTTY's > cygports package? The user could always copy them to more easily > accessible places as needed, or just rely on the recently-used list. That

Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Charles Wilson wrote: Later, if there is enough demand (complaints?) I can look at creating rxvt-W (with an alternate XAPPRES name) that is windows-only (maybe with the external libW11, maybe just like at present with the builtin libW11) -- but no split-personality. How about creating a rxvt-W

Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 03:22:14PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: >> Just to contribute something useful: Chuck Wilson, if you are reading >> this, am I correct in assuming that you don't enjoy maintaining the >> Windows version of rxvt? > >Well, it's my main terminal. I tr

Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 04:32:40PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > Charles Wilson wrote: >> Later, if there is enough demand (complaints?) I can look at creating >> rxvt-W (with an alternate XAPPRES name) that is windows-only (maybe with >> the external libW11, maybe just like at present with the

Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Paul McFerrin
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 03:22:14PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: Well, it's my main terminal. I tried MinTTY and I'm not sure yet whether it will supplant rxvt for my personal use, but it shows promise. I've been using rxvt for years as my main terminal and just tried u

Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Andy Koppe
Paul McFerrin wrote: I've been using rxvt for years as my main terminal and just tried using minTTY and really prefer not to use it. You see I'm and old man with poor eye sight. The visual attributes of minTTY aren't the same that I use with rxvt. The Lucida Console (white foreground on blac

Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-12 Thread cgf
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 11:00:28PM -0500, Paul McFerrin wrote: > On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 03:22:14PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: >> Christopher Faylor wrote: Not sure what I'm doing here. >> Well, it's my main terminal. I tried MinTTY and I'm not sure yet whether >> it will supplant rxvt for my p

Re: Duplicate mintty window (was: Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-03-30 Thread bjoe
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:35:26PM +, Andy Koppe wrote: > bjoe wrote: > >> > What I found missing in Mintty is putty feature to start duplicate > >> > session (more welcome with hot-keys) > >> > >> Since MinTTY doesn't have sessions like Putty, I didn't think there > >> was much point in keepin

pedantic/misled/confused/passive-aggressive (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-10 Thread Christopher Faylor
I apologize for sidetracking the MinTTY thread. It was bugging me too much to see the same argument repeated a couple of days after they were already discussed. (I blame the choklat stout: http://www.southerntierbrewing.com/beers.html) As I've said, I think MinTTY is a nice program, getting bett

Re: pedantic/misled/confused/passive-aggressive (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-10 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Christopher Faylor wrote: > Just to contribute something useful: Chuck Wilson, if you are reading > this, am I correct in assuming that you don't enjoy maintaining the > Windows version of rxvt? If so, should we consider deprecating rxvt in > favor