Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-14 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[SNIP] > > Please provide the URL of such a reply. Stating that a thing is > so > > without proof is not useful. > > Glad you ask. Examine thread "Crontab problems" > MID <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > it shows my point. > > > I see many people patiently answering "newbie" questions here. > Surely >

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-03 Thread Nicholas Wourms
> Well there you name a group, the biggest lusers (Herr von Wourms) > are > to be found right here. They will spam, underquote, forget to > snip etc. If you want to use email use an email client or be quit. I'm afraid to say I don't see how this is relevant to the discussion. I don't use usenet,

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-02 Thread raphael
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 02:59:12AM +, Soren A wrote: > raphael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote around 01 Oct 2002 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > Is just arogance nothing more. At least it shows a complete > > unawareness of reality. You will never ever change a MS-Word user in

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Soren A
raphael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote around 01 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Is just arogance nothing more. At least it shows a complete > unawareness of reality. You will never ever change a MS-Word user into > a VIM or EMAC user. And why would you? I have to say that I r

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Soren A
Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote around 01 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > [I don't seem to I've replied to Chris off-list. Please, don't anyone follow-up to this message. Please. There's no need for it and nothing of value would be accomplished. Thanks,

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Christopher Faylor
[I don't seem to be able to stick to my vows about not responding lately, but I couldn't let this one go. Just hit delete now. There's nothing useful here.] On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 11:58:58PM +, Soren A wrote: >So, the existence or non-existence of Gmane doesn't have much to do with >wheth

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Soren A
Eduardo Chappa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote around 30 Sep 2002 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. edu: I have finally decided that it would seem a little _strange_ if i _didn't_ get my 2c in here since some (with overall historical memory of past posts) will recall some rather strident messages authored by me

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 02:14:27PM -0400, Robinow, David wrote: >> From: raphael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Subject: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., >> alt.os.cygwin) >> >> On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 10:37:35AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >&

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Robinow, David
> From: raphael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Subject: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., > alt.os.cygwin) > > On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 10:37:35AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > Please provide the URL of such a reply. Stating that a thing is so > >

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 10:25:00AM -0500, Lane, Frank L wrote: >As a newbie to cygwin I'd like to put a comment in on this one. > >Even if people are brusque, without being a downright rude, newbie's, >like moi, learn and more importantly are helped to learn what questions >are apropos on what lis

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread raphael
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 10:37:35AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > a mail server [No Reverse DNS] with no reverse DNS entry. > X-RBL-Warning: This E-mail was routed in a poor manner consistent with spam >[2103]. > X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for s

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Lane, Frank L
hristopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin) -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.co

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread raphael
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 08:58:17PM +0200, Lisi wrote: > > > > >Yes, your question made me wonder if it wouldn't be nice to have a > >cygwin-unix-questions mailing list, but then it occurred to me that then > >we'd have endless and indignant discussions of whether something is cygwin > >or unix

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 09:30:53AM +0100, raphael wrote: >On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 07:22:35PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>However, this really side steps the issue. Five hundred "How do I get >>to the previous command in bash?" questions are not going to lead to >>new insight about cygwin.

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread raphael
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 07:22:35PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > However, this really side steps the issue. Five hundred "How do I get > to the previous command in bash?" questions are not going to lead to new > insight about cygwin. Yes they will. These questions are asked by starting use

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 05:16:53PM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >*** Christopher Faylor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: >It's basically a situation in which you don't want to be involved, and >that's fine, but why complain about it, if it's not going to affect you >in any way. I don't see the po

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Nicholas Wourms
--- "Michael B. Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Regarding the thread "Moving to Usenet?" > (www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2000-07/msg00275.html) (which I found by > via > www.google.com/search?q=site:cygwin.com+usenet to see who else also > wanted > discussions on Usenet): [SNIP] I don't know wh

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Eduardo Chappa
*** Christopher Faylor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) [some comments deleted] :) :) However, this really side steps the issue. Five hundred "How do I get :) to the previous command in bash?" questions are not going to lead to new :) insight about cygwin. That's what we're talking about. I

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 03:28:00PM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >Let me tell you how I see this. When I've supported Pine, I haven't >looked at the content of the question as much as I've looked at the >value of the answer. Just to give you an example, someone once asked >me if Pine supported ju

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Eduardo Chappa
*** Jeremy Hetzler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) A group that does all the work to answer anyone's question, no matter :) how obvious the answer or easy to find it is elsewhere, no matter that :) it is the hundredth time it has been asked that week? Yes, that sounds :) like a wonderful thin

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Jeremy Hetzler
At 10:48 AM 9/30/2002 -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >Finally, one of the advantages about a separate newsgroup is that people >would feel more confortable asking a question. The cygwin mailing list >tries very hard to have people not to ask questions (search the FAQs >first, look for a better mail

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread raphael
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:54:56AM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > >*** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: > > > >:) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa > >:) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >:) > >

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Eduardo Chappa
*** Christopher Faylor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:54:56AM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: :) >*** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) > :) >:) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa :) >:) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :) >:) :) >:) >

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:54:56AM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >>*** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: >> >>:) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa >>:) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>:) >>:) > Fo

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:54:56AM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >*** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: > >:) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa >:) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >:) >:) > For these reasons, I completely support the idea of creating an >:) > indepen

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Eduardo Chappa
*** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa :) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :) :) > For these reasons, I completely support the idea of creating an :) > independent newsgroup. :) :) So file the proposal. Sure, I can do that, but w

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Michael A Chase
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For these reasons, I completely support the idea of creating an > independent newsgroup. So file the proposal. -- Mac :}) ** I normally forward private questions to the appropriate mail list. ** Ask Smarter:

Re: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Lisi
> >Yes, your question made me wonder if it wouldn't be nice to have a >cygwin-unix-questions mailing list, but then it occurred to me that then >we'd have endless and indignant discussions of whether something is cygwin >or unix-specific. That's the point of a cygwin-unix list, questions can

Re: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Eduardo Chappa
*** Philippe Bastiani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) > Either actually read the mailing list via email as intended or read :) > it via news. :) :) We can read/write messages via news.gmane.org server... :) :) But, IMHO, a group of discussion would be very useful: for the :) beginners, for 'r

Re: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Philippe Bastiani
Hi, > Either actually read the mailing list via email as intended or read it > via news. We can read/write messages via news.gmane.org server... But, IMHO, a group of discussion would be very useful: for the beginners, for 'repeat' questions and problems, ..., for any debat concerning Cygwin!

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Zieg, Mark
> OK, let me clarify - I guess what I would really like is a Cygwin-specific > *Unix* beginner's list. My desire is not to get rid of stupid questions, > since I think all my questions are probably stupid, but rather the > questions that are just over my head and make me feel like I will never

Re: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 01:54:54PM +0200, Thomas Mellman wrote: >The only thing I'm missing is a nice way to directly reference an entry >that I read on the maillist server so that I get merged into the >thread. As it is, I'm switching to "raw-text", grabbing the >Referenced-Mail (or whatever it'

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 02:31:35PM +0200, Lisi wrote: >Maybe I should just join a Unix newbie list, any suggestions are >appreciated. The standard suggestion, use google: http://www.google.com/search?q=unix+newbie cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug repo

Re: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Thomas Mellman
Lisi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 30.09.02 13:30:49: > OK, let me clarify - I guess what I would really like is a Cygwin-specific > *Unix* beginner's list. My desire is not to get rid of stupid questions, > since I think all my questions are probably stupid, but rather the > questions that ar

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Lisi
OK, let me clarify - I guess what I would really like is a Cygwin-specific *Unix* beginner's list. My desire is not to get rid of stupid questions, since I think all my questions are probably stupid, but rather the questions that are just over my head and make me feel like I will never be at t

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Thomas Mellman
<20020926063518 dot GA1292 at raphael dot oninet dot pt> >>The Cygwin list seems to do fine, though a beginners list would be nice. > I would definitely appreciate a beginner's list, one where we could ask questions >like "Hey, I'm not even sure if > this is a Cygwin question or a applicat

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-27 Thread Thomas Mellman
RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin) > From: "Chris January" > > > The internal URLs don't seem to be set up right; but there's some > > interesting things on there, thanks. > > Oops - I broke that yesterday when tryi

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-27 Thread Chris January
> > Tried the Cygwin TWiki? > > http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ccj00/twiki/bin/view/Cygwin > > > > It's maintained by NanFudd aka Charles Howes. Just make a page for > > beginner's questions there. Hopefully some helpful souls will check back > > every so often ;) > > > > > The internal URLs don't seem

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-27 Thread Chris Game
In an earlier post, Chris January said... > Tried the Cygwin TWiki? > http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ccj00/twiki/bin/view/Cygwin > > It's maintained by NanFudd aka Charles Howes. Just make a page for > beginner's questions there. Hopefully some helpful souls will check back > every so often ;) > > T

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-26 Thread Chris January
> >The Cygwin list seems to do fine, though a beginners list would be nice. > > I would definitely appreciate a beginner's list, one where we could ask > questions like "Hey, I'm not even sure if this is a Cygwin question or a > question but could anyone help..." > > The amount of traffic on this

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-26 Thread Lisi
> >The Cygwin list seems to do fine, though a beginners list would be nice. I would definitely appreciate a beginner's list, one where we could ask questions like "Hey, I'm not even sure if this is a Cygwin question or a question but could anyone help..." The amount of traffic on this list i

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-26 Thread raphael
On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 07:24:19PM -0700, Michael B. Parker wrote: > Regarding the thread "Moving to Usenet?" > (www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2000-07/msg00275.html) (which I found by via > www.google.com/search?q=site:cygwin.com+usenet to see who else also wanted > discussions on Usenet): > > I WILL

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-26 Thread Vince Hoffman
Assuming this one will get past the spam filter.. have a look at www.gmane.org they already provide the list as a newsgroup. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.htm

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-25 Thread Michael B. Parker
Regarding the thread "Moving to Usenet?" (www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2000-07/msg00275.html) (which I found by via www.google.com/search?q=site:cygwin.com+usenet to see who else also wanted discussions on Usenet): I WILL FIRMLY 2ND Jonas Jensen's good suggestion (http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2000