Re: "Hyperthreading" problems

2005-01-02 Thread Larry Hall
At 04:08 PM 1/1/2005, you wrote: >Brian Bruns wrote: >> >> >>I think you really really really need to reevaluate what you say >>before you hit send. >> >>The open source/free software developers that I communicate with/work >>with wrote the stuff they did because they needed an >>application/librar

Re: "Hyperthreading" problems

2005-01-01 Thread Stephane Donze
Brian Bruns wrote: If you guys want cygwin to be used by real people, in real life production or development environments, you should go a bit further than "I don't have the problem on my computer, so fix it yourself". If you don't want to or are not able to pay attention to "real world" bugs, cygw

RE: "Hyperthreading" problems

2004-12-29 Thread Volker Bandke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sitting in Germany makes it difficult for me to physically send you a machine. What I can do, though, is to virtually hand over the machine to you via the net. I have an ADSL connection with 3 megabits/sec download and 512 kilobit/sec download

Re: "Hyperthreading" problems

2004-12-28 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 05:29:10PM -0800, Brian Dessent wrote: >Stephane Donze wrote: >>If you guys want cygwin to be used by real people, in real life >>production or development environments, you should go a bit further >>than "I don't have the problem on my computer, so fix it yourself". If >>y

Re: "Hyperthreading" problems

2004-12-28 Thread Brian Dessent
Stephane Donze wrote: > If you guys want cygwin to be used by real people, in real life > production or development environments, you should go a bit further than > "I don't have the problem on my computer, so fix it yourself". If you > don't want to or are not able to pay attention to "real world

Re: "Hyperthreading" problems

2004-12-28 Thread Brian Bruns
On Tuesday, December 28, 2004 5:31 PM [EST], Stephane Donze wrote: > Hi, > > Thank you for your reply. You are right, I did not look at the > code, and I certainly do not pretend to be able to fix this problem. > > I am sorry to have to say that, but your message is a very good > example of the fu

Re: "Hyperthreading" problems

2004-12-28 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 11:31:00PM +0100, Stephane Donze wrote: >I am sorry to have to say that, but your message is a very good example >of the fundamental difference between a project that is useable and >reliable, and a project that "almost works" and will never do more that >that. > >[snip]

RE: "Hyperthreading" problems

2004-12-28 Thread Robb, Sam
> If you guys want cygwin to be used by real people, in real life > production or development environments, you should go a bit > further than > "I don't have the problem on my computer, so fix it yourself". OK. So, if he's unable to reproduce the problem, you want him to... do what? Make ran

RE: "Hyperthreading" problems

2004-12-28 Thread Bakken, Luke
> multiprocessor machines and nobody seems to care about it. You cannot > just expect people to "wait until you someday have a system > that shows > the problem" everytime they encounter a bug. Actually since Cygwin is a free project this is a reasonable expectation. If you want this fixed send

Re: "Hyperthreading" problems

2004-12-28 Thread Stephane Donze
Hi, Thank you for your reply. You are right, I did not look at the code, and I certainly do not pretend to be able to fix this problem. I am sorry to have to say that, but your message is a very good example of the fundamental difference between a project that is useable and reliable, and a pro

Re: "Hyperthreading" problems

2004-12-24 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 09:01:17AM +0100, St?phane Donz? wrote: >we have encountered random hangs and crashes in cygwin (see output of >cygcheck attached to this message) on a dual-processor server running >Windows Server 2003. IMHO, the so-called "hyperthreading problems" reported >recently on thi