Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2013-03-01 Thread Achim Gratz
Warren Young writes: > I never have run the SQLite tests. I see, thanks for letting me know. That adds another unknown in that investigation, unfortunately. > At this point, I'm about to give up on it and ship an updated version > of my latetst test packages. That is, with FTS and such features

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2013-03-01 Thread Warren Young
On 3/1/2013 08:11, Achim Gratz wrote: how'd you work around the reams of errors in compiling the testfixture (if you had to do anything)? I never have run the SQLite tests. The reason I brought it up is that it could possibly provide a counterargument against the "svn + bdb breaks" report.

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2013-03-01 Thread Achim Gratz
Hi Warren, Warren Young etr-usa.com> writes: > 4. Profit! Still not sure about that... If I check out the 3.7.15.2 version and just configure / make, I'll get a seemingly working sqlite3.exe, but I can't compile the testfixture. How do you configure the build on Cygwin and how'd you work aroun

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2013-02-12 Thread Achim Gratz
Warren Young writes: > Quoting that page: "They are contained in the same source tree as the > SQLite core..." That means the Fossil repository, not the "amalgam" > the Cygwin packages are built from. Yes, I see that now. > Steps: […] What I've been missing is that by allowing Javascript on the

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2013-02-11 Thread Warren Young
On 2/11/2013 15:00, Achim Gratz wrote: Warren Young writes: https://www.sqlite.org/testing.html That doesn't seem tell me where to download the testsuite Quoting that page: "They are contained in the same source tree as the SQLite core..." That means the Fossil repository, not the "amalgam

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2013-02-11 Thread David Stacey
On 11/02/13 21:51, Warren Young wrote: As I saw it, I released some test builds, they caused a new problem, I'm not sure you introduced a new problem - Subversion's 'bdb' tests were locking up on both the .13 and .15 builds. Achim thought that this might be to do with the version of BerkeleyD

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2013-02-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Warren Young writes: > https://www.sqlite.org/testing.html That doesn't seem tell me where to download the testsuite and it's definitely not in the tarball that Cygwin builds from. Is it in the "canonical sources" somewhere, perhaps? And how to access those? Sorry if that's obvious to you… Re

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2013-02-11 Thread Warren Young
On 2/11/2013 14:23, Achim Gratz wrote: Warren Young writes: From my perspective, though, I have a new problem, which is scraping together enough free time to set up the SQLite test suite on a machine here and set it to grinding, so I can exonerate the recent .15.1 build. That's the second ti

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2013-02-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Hi Warren, Warren Young writes: > From my perspective, though, I have a new problem, which is scraping > together enough free time to set up the SQLite test suite on a machine > here and set it to grinding, so I can exonerate the recent .15.1 > build. That's the second time I hear you talking abo

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2013-02-11 Thread Warren Young
On 2/5/2013 12:51, Achim Gratz wrote: SQLite implements a retry-on-failure, complete with exponentially increasing backoff times. Thanks for the investigative reporting. :) From my perspective, though, I have a new problem, which is scraping together enough free time to set up the SQLite test

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2013-02-05 Thread Achim Gratz
Yaakov (Cygwin/X) writes: > So you're saying that it is more important for Cygwin's sqlite3 to work > with a Windows program than it is for it to work properly with other > Cygwin libraries and programs? That doesn't sound very pragmatic to me. > Software built for Cygwin should _always_ follow *N

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-11-16 Thread Daniel Colascione
On 8/16/2012 12:41 AM, Achim Gratz wrote: > $ sqlite3 > SQLite version 3.7.13 2012-06-11 02:05:22 > Enter ".help" for instructions > Enter SQL statements terminated with a ";" > sqlite> CREATE TEMP TABLE two (id INTEGER NOT NULL, name CHAR(64) NOT NULL ); > Error: unable to open database file > sql

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-17 Thread Brian Wilson
> Software built for Cygwin should _always_ follow *NIX behaviour. > > Yaakov Amen! -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-

RE: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-17 Thread Brian Wilson
> Sometimes I don't understand the antagonism towards interop with native > Windows programs that don't do anything unusual and do things by the > (Windows) book. It seems like it defeats the point of the project > if that goes too far. What's wrong with being pragmatic sometimes? There is n

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Warren Young! > What are Fred's options? Use commandline capabilities provided by TortoiseSVN. > Option 1: Download the native Windows Subversion port. Sensible, but it > means you have to use a crippled shell. There's no such thing as "crippled shell" involved. Crippled knowledg

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread David Rothenberger
On 8/16/2012 7:08 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > So you're saying that it is more important for Cygwin's sqlite3 to work > with a Windows program than it is for it to work properly with other > Cygwin libraries and programs? That doesn't sound very pragmatic to me. > Software built for Cygwin shou

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On Thu, 2012-08-16 at 21:31 +, James Johnston wrote: > I was just about to start writing a similar message to this, but you did it > for me very perfectly! What's the point of Cygwin if it can't play nice > with other Windows programs on the system? The "point" of Cygwin is clearly stated on

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread JonY
On 8/17/2012 02:22, Warren Young wrote: > On 8/16/2012 10:34 AM, Brian Wilson wrote: >> >> Corina > > Corinna. > >> is correct, Cygwin is supposed to be a Posix compliant environment > > It's also supposed to interoperate with native Windows programs. > That's fine when it works, but that is n

RE: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread James Johnston
> -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 18:22 > To: Cygwin-L > Subject: Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status? > > On 8/16/2012 10:34 AM, Brian Wilson wrote: > > is correct, Cygwin is supposed to be a Posix compliant environment &g

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread Warren Young
On 8/16/2012 10:34 AM, Brian Wilson wrote: Corina Corinna. is correct, Cygwin is supposed to be a Posix compliant environment It's also supposed to interoperate with native Windows programs. If you want to use Windoze tools, why are you using Cygwin? First, instant 100 point credibilit

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread David Rothenberger
On 8/16/2012 9:34 AM, Brian Wilson wrote: > Corina is correct, Cygwin is supposed to be a Posix compliant environment so > the SQLite package should follow the Posix standard as the default > behavior. If you want to use Windoze tools, why are you using Cygwin? If > you really must, why not se

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread Brian Wilson
> >> This recent wish for SQLite on Cygwin to act more Unix-like is the > >> first such request I've received, and I don't remember it being an > >> issue with the previous maintainer, either. > > > > Maybe the reason is because subversion didn't use SQLite before? > > That's mere happenstance.

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread Warren Young
On 8/16/2012 6:26 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Aug 16 06:01, Warren Young wrote: This recent wish for SQLite on Cygwin to act more Unix-like is the first such request I've received, and I don't remember it being an issue with the previous maintainer, either. Maybe the reason is because subv

RE: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread Thrall, Bryan
Warren Young wrote on 2012-08-16: > Dev Fred likes to use the GUI TortoiseSVN client most of the time. > (Fred is a little strange, but we like him anyway.) My particular use case is 99% of the time, I use Cygwin SVN, but once in a while TortoiseSVN's revision graph is useful. I think what makes

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread Earnie Boyd
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > That's not how it's supposed to be, as far as I'm concerned... > I can see both POV but the Cygwin POV is to DITCW (Do It The Cygwin Way) which is the de facto correct answer regardless of your own POV. So the WJM response is in fact a c

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 16 06:01, Warren Young wrote: > On 8/16/2012 4:55 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >On Aug 16 04:30, Warren Young wrote: > >> > >>So, what you did with that requested change, Achim, is prevented > >>Cygwin svn from winning any fights over ownership of .svn/wc.db. > > > >So what? Don't use nati

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread Warren Young
On 8/16/2012 4:55 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Aug 16 04:30, Warren Young wrote: So, what you did with that requested change, Achim, is prevented Cygwin svn from winning any fights over ownership of .svn/wc.db. So what? Don't use native Windows tools in parallel accessing the same file. F

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 16 04:30, Warren Young wrote: > On 8/16/2012 2:50 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >On Aug 16 07:41, Achim Gratz wrote: > >>there's a race > >>somewhere between calls from the Cygwin DLL and Windows file locking > >>functions. > > > >Cygwin does not use Windows mandatory locking. The locking

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-16 Thread Warren Young
On 8/16/2012 2:50 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Aug 16 07:41, Achim Gratz wrote: there's a race somewhere between calls from the Cygwin DLL and Windows file locking functions. Cygwin does not use Windows mandatory locking. The locking is entirely implemented within the Cygwin DLL and is only

RE: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status? (was: Updated: sqlite3-3.7.13-1)

2012-08-16 Thread Adam Dinwoodie
Warren Young wrote: > On 8/13/2012 10:12 AM, Warren Young wrote: >> >> This is a *test* version which reverts the patch added to 3.7.12.1-1, which >> caused problems with Subversion as a side effect > > I haven't heard peep one from either side about this release on this list. > (For contrast, I've

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status? (was: Updated: sqlite3-3.7.13-1)

2012-08-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 16 07:41, Achim Gratz wrote: > Warren Young etr-usa.com> writes: > > I haven't heard peep one from either side about this release on this > > list. (For contrast, I've gotten several positive responses in my > > answer to the question about this on Stack Overflow[1].) > > Sorry, I've be

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status? (was: Updated: sqlite3-3.7.13-1)

2012-08-16 Thread Achim Gratz
Warren Young etr-usa.com> writes: > I haven't heard peep one from either side about this release on this > list. (For contrast, I've gotten several positive responses in my > answer to the question about this on Stack Overflow[1].) Sorry, I've been swamped with other stuff... > Silence = happ

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status?

2012-08-15 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 8/15/2012 4:50 PM, Warren Young wrote: On 8/13/2012 10:12 AM, Warren Young wrote: This is a *test* version which reverts the patch added to 3.7.12.1-1, which caused problems with Subversion as a side effect I haven't heard peep one from either side about this release on this list. (For con

Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status? (was: Updated: sqlite3-3.7.13-1)

2012-08-15 Thread Warren Young
On 8/13/2012 10:12 AM, Warren Young wrote: This is a *test* version which reverts the patch added to 3.7.12.1-1, which caused problems with Subversion as a side effect I haven't heard peep one from either side about this release on this list. (For contrast, I've gotten several positive respo