Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Spiro Trikaliotis
Hello David, * On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 05:42:20PM -0900 David Abrahams wrote: > > Can anyone explain why the installer began recommending using *nix line > ending conventions? DOS-compatible endings have always "just worked" > for me and I've heard of lots of problems doing it the now-recommende

RE: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> From: Spiro Trikaliotis > > Hello David, > > * On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 05:42:20PM -0900 David Abrahams wrote: > > > > Can anyone explain why the installer began recommending using *nix > > line ending conventions? DOS-compatible endings have > always "just worked" > > for me and I've heard

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to David Abrahams on 12/18/2008 7:42 PM: > Can anyone explain why the installer began recommending using *nix line > ending conventions? Because Unix line endings work out of the box with more programs, and because it is faster, and because

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > Me too, and like you and the OP report, it "just works" 99.44% of the time. > Of course, since it's not the 21st century yet, many Unixoid programs are > still unable to handle text files properly, hence the remaining 0.66%. 100 - 99.44

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 06:34:19AM -0700, Eric Blake wrote: >According to David Abrahams on 12/18/2008 7:42 PM: >>Can anyone explain why the installer began recommending using *nix line >>ending conventions? > >Because Unix line endings work out of the box with more programs, and >because it is fas

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread David Abrahams
on Fri Dec 19 2008, Eric Blake wrote: > By the way, the program 'd2u' is your friend. I'm on *nix now to avoid all such issues, but yeah, when I have to run Cygwin in a VM, it's a thing to keep in mind. Thanks for all the responses everyone. -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boo

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Mark J. Reed wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Me too, and like you and the OP report, it "just works" 99.44% of the time. Of course, since it's not the 21st century yet, many Unixoid programs are still unable to handle text files properly, hence the remaining 0

RE: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> From: Andrew DeFaria > > Mark J. Reed wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > >> Me too, and like you and the OP report, it "just works" > 99.44% of the > >> time. Of course, since it's not the 21st century yet, many Unixoid > >> programs are still unable to ha

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Dec 19 10:29, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > From: Andrew DeFaria > > > > Mark J. Reed wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > >> Me too, and like you and the OP report, it "just works" > > 99.44% of the > > >> time. Of course, since it's not the 21st centur

RE: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
[Followups set to -talk due to apropos but not-necessarily-Cygwin-specific devolution of the discussion] > From: Corinna Vinschen > > On Dec 19 10:29, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > > From: Andrew DeFaria > > > > > > Mark J. Reed wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Gary R. Van Sickle

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Another one who believes what their calendar tells them? Another one who doubts the calendar and can't do math... Then riddle me this Andrew: If this were in fact the 21st century (AKA "The Future"), But you see that's the thing. It's not AKA "The Future" - it's now.

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-20 Thread Spiro Trikaliotis
Hello Gary, * On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 03:42:34AM -0600 Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > From: Spiro Trikaliotis [...] > > Oh, and Subversion is problematic, too. Because the SVN > > developers decided to handle line endings on their own using > > libapr, opening files in binary mode and reading and

RE: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-20 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> From: Spiro Trikaliotis > > Hello Gary, > Hey Spiro, > * On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 03:42:34AM -0600 Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > > From: Spiro Trikaliotis > [...] > > > Oh, and Subversion is problematic, too. Because the SVN > developers > > > decided to handle line endings on their own usin

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-22 Thread Linus Hicks
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > Yeah, right, if this were in fact the 21st century, why would we ever > have to deal with a 30 year old, idiotic-from-the-start text file format > using two line ending chars? How quickly we forget... The first devices that had any und

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-22 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 02:12:11PM -0500, Linus Hicks wrote: >On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> >> Yeah, right, if this were in fact the 21st century, why would we ever >> have to deal with a 30 year old, idiotic-from-the-start text file format >> using two line ending ch

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-22 Thread Ralph Hempel
Linus Hicks wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Yeah, right, if this were in fact the 21st century, why would we ever have to deal with a 30 year old, idiotic-from-the-start text file format using two line ending chars? How quickly we forget... Great summary! I