Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-30 Thread Randall R Schulz
Jim, At 19:15 2003-01-30, Jim Kleckner wrote: Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote: At 09:54 PM 1/30/2003, Jim Kleckner wrote: [snip ] Thanks! While you have the code in hand, would it be possible to allow the setup window to be resized? I'm constantly wanting to see more lines at once... H

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-30 Thread Jim Kleckner
Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote: At 09:54 PM 1/30/2003, Jim Kleckner wrote: [snip ] Thanks! While you have the code in hand, would it be possible to allow the setup window to be resized? I'm constantly wanting to see more lines at once... Have you been reading the email archives? I th

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-30 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
At 09:54 PM 1/30/2003, Jim Kleckner wrote: >Max Bowsher wrote: > >>William A. Hoffman wrote: >[snip] >>>2. Failing that, it would be nice if the setup program had a button that >>>set all the values to Keep. The problem is that if I want a new >>>package X, I have to click 20 other packages to K

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-30 Thread Jim Kleckner
Max Bowsher wrote: William A. Hoffman wrote: [snip] 2. Failing that, it would be nice if the setup program had a button that set all the values to Keep. The problem is that if I want a new package X, I have to click 20 other packages to Keep, or risk an update of everything. There should be

Re: cygwin Release process

2003-01-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
Mark, At 09:38 2003-01-28, Mark Himsley wrote: On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:27:26 -0800 Randall R Schulz wrote: >>Arthur Dent got an announcement before his home was demolished >>for a bypass (apologies to those who don't get the HHGTTG reference). :-) > >Isn't "hitchhiker" one word? (Even Eudora's m

Re: cygwin Release process

2003-01-28 Thread Mark Himsley
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:27:26 -0800 Randall R Schulz wrote: >>Arthur Dent got an announcement before his home was demolished >>for a bypass (apologies to those who don't get the HHGTTG reference). :-) > >Isn't "hitchhiker" one word? (Even Eudora's meager dictionary thinks so.) Not in this contex

RE: cygwin Release process

2003-01-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
Scott, At 08:02 2003-01-28, Scott Prive wrote: ... I don't disagree that the change was "announced". In hindsight, I see it was. Arthur Dent got an announcement before his home was demolished for a bypass (apologies to those who don't get the HHGTTG reference). :-) Isn't "hitchhiker" one wor

RE: cygwin Release process

2003-01-28 Thread Scott Prive
> -Original Message- > From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: cygwin Release process > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:54:25PM -0500, Scott Prive wrote: > >William,

Re: cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:54:25PM -0500, Scott Prive wrote: >William, > >The "ntsec" problem by all accounts was a one-time switch that burned a >lot of people. It seems like a great feature (not completely using it >myself), and when I upgraded to it I had NO idea of the impending >change. I sh

RE: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Scott Prive
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 3:24 PM > To: Max Bowsher; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cygwin Release process > > > Well, if I am the only person with this opinion, then you are right. > I should stop complaining and burn a CD. However, I suspe

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread William A. Hoffman
I realize it is a volunteer effort, and a good one, it really makes windows much nicer to work with! I am not demanding or expecting anything. I am only trying to start a discussion that could lead to a possible solution. I think that this could be done without "much" effort, or the work of a

Re: cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 08:15:01AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: >Bill, IMO you are missing a key point: > >Cygwin is volunteer maintained. No release manager volunteer, and no >stable release maintainer (who will maintain stable packages after they >become stale) have stepped up. > >The *only* way

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Collins
Bill, IMO you are missing a key point: Cygwin is volunteer maintained. No release manager volunteer, and no stable release maintainer (who will maintain stable packages after they become stale) have stepped up. The *only* way you will get a stable release is to: 1) offer to take on all the extr

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ch a "debate" in this thread. Thanks, Larry Original Message: - From: Max Bowsher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:07:16 -0000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cygwin Release process William A. Hoffman wrote: > So, from the feed

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread William A. Hoffman
Well, if I am the only person with this opinion, then you are right. I should stop complaining and burn a CD. However, I suspect that I am not alone in wanting a more stable cygwin.It will be hard to prove my case, as the folks that read this list and post to it, tend to be more developer ori

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Max Bowsher
William A. Hoffman wrote: > So, from the feedback I am getting, it really boils down to a "not > enough people to maintain the feature" issue. I don't think that > people don't think that a stable release of cygwin would be a bad > thing, it is just that there > is no one to maintain it. > > The l

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Max Bowsher
Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > The "Keep" button is in the setup CVS already. Try a setup snapshot. These aren't auto-generated. The latest one doesn't have this in, yet. Max. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Docu

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
Bill, The "Keep" button is in the setup CVS already. Try a setup snapshot. ;-) There does seem to be a tendency that most of the problems are introduced when a major new version of a package (*-1) is released. The *-[2-9] versions are usually bugfixes applied specifically to the Cygwin port of

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread William A. Hoffman
The new View:Partial does help. I can now easily see what will get updated. It would be nice if there was a button, that set all of them to keep. Often times, I want to update only a single package, and that makes it easier. So, from the feedback I am getting, it really boils down to a "not en

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cygwin Release process What I am suggesting is taking the same approach as Debian. Each package in Debian is in one of these states: Stable, Testing, or Unstable. Stable packages - should work. Testing packages - working on becoming the next stable version Unst

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Max Bowsher
William A. Hoffman wrote: > What I am suggesting is taking the same approach as Debian. > Each package in Debian is in one of these states: > Stable, Testing, or Unstable. > > Stable packages - should work. We have this. Its called [curr] > Testing packages - working on becoming the next stable v

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread William A. Hoffman
What I am suggesting is taking the same approach as Debian. Each package in Debian is in one of these states: Stable, Testing, or Unstable. Stable packages - should work. Testing packages - working on becoming the next stable version Unstable packages - all other packages, might be working towards

Re: cygwin Release process

2003-01-24 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 03:39:46PM -, Steve Fairbairn wrote: >How cliquey? I reckon us outsiders should make a mass exodus if >Christopher *in-most-mother-esq-tone-I-can-manage* fails to explain >himself. It's simple: Corinna works for me. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml

RE: cygwin Release process

2003-01-24 Thread Steve Fairbairn
How cliquey? I reckon us outsiders should make a mass exodus if Christopher *in-most-mother-esq-tone-I-can-manage* fails to explain himself. -Original Message- From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 January 2003 15:34 Actually, in a way, I guess I did say it. cgf

Re: cygwin Release process

2003-01-24 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 10:55:54AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 04:39:21PM -0500, William A. Hoffman wrote: >> Is there any way to control the versions of programs you get from setup.exe? >> The cygwin environment is different on almost every machine at our company. >> It

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 04:39:21PM -0500, William A. Hoffman wrote: > Is there any way to control the versions of programs you get from setup.exe? > The cygwin environment is different on almost every machine at our company. > It all depends on when you ran the setup program.I have two suggesti

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-23 Thread Randall R Schulz
Max, At 14:10 2003-01-23, Max Bowsher wrote: Randall R Schulz wrote: >> 2. Failing that, it would be nice if the setup program had a button >> that >> set all the values to Keep. The problem is that if I want a new >> package X, I have to click 20 other packages to Keep, or risk an >> update of

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-23 Thread Max Bowsher
Randall R Schulz wrote: >> 2. Failing that, it would be nice if the setup program had a button >> that >> set all the values to Keep. The problem is that if I want a new >> package X, I have to click 20 other packages to Keep, or risk an >> update of everything. There should be a way to update o

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-23 Thread Randall R Schulz
William, At 13:39 2003-01-23, William A. Hoffman wrote: Is there any way to control the versions of programs you get from setup.exe? The cygwin environment is different on almost every machine at our company. It all depends on when you ran the setup program.I have two suggestions: The Cygwi

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-23 Thread Max Bowsher
William A. Hoffman wrote: > Is there any way to control the versions of programs you get from > setup.exe? The cygwin environment is different on almost every > machine at our company. It all depends on when you ran the setup > program.I have two suggestions: > > 1. It would be nice, if there w

Re: cygwin release

2002-11-18 Thread David Starks-Browning
On Sunday 17 Nov 02, Igor Pechtchanski writes: > Thanks for the prompt response. I realized that he asked for a better > window, that's why I tried searching for both. > For the future, though, would sending a patch to winsup/doc/faq.texinfo > instead make your job easier, or harder? Patches are

RE: cygwin release

2002-11-17 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> On Sunday 17 Nov 02, Igor Pechtchanski writes: > > On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Lapo Luchini wrote: > > > > > Dennis Lubert wrote: > > > > > > > just saw the new cygwin release, and since I don't know who to ask, I > > > > ask you ;) Is there any other shell, oder shell-like program I can use > > > > cyg

Re: cygwin release

2002-11-17 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, David Starks-Browning wrote: > On Sunday 17 Nov 02, Igor Pechtchanski writes: > > On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Lapo Luchini wrote: > > > > > Dennis Lubert wrote: > > > > > > > just saw the new cygwin release, and since I don't know who to ask, I > > > > ask you ;) Is there any other s

Re: cygwin release

2002-11-17 Thread David Starks-Browning
On Sunday 17 Nov 02, Igor Pechtchanski writes: > On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Lapo Luchini wrote: > > > Dennis Lubert wrote: > > > > > just saw the new cygwin release, and since I don't know who to ask, I > > > ask you ;) Is there any other shell, oder shell-like program I can use > > > cygwin with ? I us

Re: cygwin release

2002-11-17 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Lapo Luchini wrote: > Dennis Lubert wrote: > > > just saw the new cygwin release, and since I don't know who to ask, I > > ask you ;) Is there any other shell, oder shell-like program I can use > > cygwin with ? I use is currently with the MS-DOS command-line, but I > > can't

Re: cygwin release

2002-11-17 Thread Lapo Luchini
Dennis Lubert wrote: just saw the new cygwin release, and since I don't know who to ask, I ask you ;) Is there any other shell, oder shell-like program I can use cygwin with ? I use is currently with the MS-DOS command-line, but I can't resize this, can't do copy/paste and so on... I would lik