Re: sending email from Cygwin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I appear to have both exim and ssmtp installed; but I see that > /usr/sbin/sendmail is a symlink to /usr/bin/ssmtp. Fair enough, if > interesting. In fact, the ssmtp package does not create the sendmail symlink. As far as I can tell, no Cygwin packag

Re: sending email from Cygwin

At 10:16 PM 7/13/2004, you wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I appear to have both exim and ssmtp installed; but I see that >> /usr/sbin/sendmail is a symlink to /usr/bin/ssmtp. Fair enough, if >> interesting. > >In fact, the ssmtp package does not create the sendmail symlink

Re: sending email from Cygwin

Larry Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:16 PM 7/13/2004, you wrote: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I appear to have both exim and ssmtp installed; but I see that >>> /usr/sbin/sendmail is a symlink to /usr/bin/ssmtp. Fair enough, if >>> interesting. >> >>In fact, the ssmt

Re: sending email from Cygwin

At 12:47 AM 7/14/2004, you wrote: >Larry Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> At 10:16 PM 7/13/2004, you wrote: >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I appear to have both exim and ssmtp installed; but I see that /usr/sbin/sendmail is a symlink to /usr/bin/ssmtp. Fair enough, if

Re: sending email from Cygwin

On Jul 14 10:31, Larry Hall wrote: > At 12:47 AM 7/14/2004, you wrote: > >Larry Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> At 10:16 PM 7/13/2004, you wrote: > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I appear to have both exim and ssmtp installed; but I see that > /usr/sbin/sendmail is

Re: sending email from Cygwin

At 11:07 AM 7/14/2004, you wrote: >On Jul 14 10:31, Larry Hall wrote: >> At 12:47 AM 7/14/2004, you wrote: >> >Larry Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> At 10:16 PM 7/13/2004, you wrote: >> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I appear to have both exim and ssmtp installed; but I see that >>

Re: sending email from Cygwin

On Jul 14 12:45, Larry Hall wrote: > At 11:07 AM 7/14/2004, you wrote: > >I don't think cron should contain a dependency to ssmtp though. It would > >be the same as to have a dependency to exim. > > Well, I brought it up since it explicitly creates the link to ssmtp. An > easier alternative wou

Re: sending email from Cygwin

At 01:17 PM 7/14/2004, you wrote: >On Jul 14 12:45, Larry Hall wrote: >> At 11:07 AM 7/14/2004, you wrote: >> >I don't think cron should contain a dependency to ssmtp though. It would >> >be the same as to have a dependency to exim. >> >> Well, I brought it up since it explicitly creates the lin

Re: sending email from Cygwin

Corinna Vinschen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think cron should contain a dependency to ssmtp though. It > would be the same as to have a dependency to exim. And why should > cron.README contain hints about how to set up ssmtp? That's the job > for the ssmtp README, isn't it? It might s

Re: sending email from Cygwin

On 14 Jul, Robert R Schneck wrote: > > I also see that my /etc/ssmtp directory is completely empty. Someone > > on the list mentioned /usr/local/exim/README.Cygwin, but there is no > > /usr/local/exim directory on my machine. > > You should have read /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/ssmtp-2.60.9.RE

Re: sending email from Cygwin

Larry Hall wrote: >Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>Methinks that a correct approach (for a given value of correct) would >>be to create the symlink in an ssmtp postinstall script. That's what >>exim does, too. Creating the symlink in the cron postinstall script >>was a hack at one point. I'd be happy

Re: sending email from Cygwin

On 14 Jul, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: > > exim -oi luke < /tmp/sample > > > > I got this error: > > > > set{u,g}id failed: 22 > > 2004-07-14 10:48:44 unable to set gid=544 or uid=18 (euid=11021): privilege not > needed > > > > (Which I assume means the opposite: that some privi

Re: sending email from Cygwin

At 10:14 AM 7/15/2004 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On 14 Jul, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: (That message was rejected by the list spam filter, I hope this one will make it through) >> > exim -oi luke < /tmp/sample >> > >> > I got this error: >> > >> > set{u,g}id failed: 22 >> >

Re: sending email from Cygwin

On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 09:44:45AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I also noticed that the exim man page doesn't mention that it can > replace sendmail That's the standard exim man page, wrong list.. > or that it creates a symlink to sendmail. exim doesn't. That symlink is created by the

Re: sending email from Cygwin

Pierre A. Humblet wrote: >Luke Kendall wrote: >> or that it creates a symlink to sendmail. > > exim doesn't. That symlink is created by the cygwin specific exim-config > script under explicit user control. That avoids possible conflicts with > postinstall scripts. Hmmm. So perhaps the appropriat

Re: sending email from Cygwin

On 14 Jul, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: > Thanks for the feedback. > > The problem is that the exim startup code thinks that you are a privileged > user (see "privileged 1" above). It does that by checking that you have the > "Create Token" privilege (you have not answered my question about h

Re: sending email from Cygwin

At 12:02 PM 7/15/2004 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On 14 Jul, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: >> Thanks for the feedback. >> >> The problem is that the exim startup code thinks that you are a privileged >> user (see "privileged 1" above). It does that by checking that you have the >> "Create

Re: sending email from Cygwin

On 14 Jul, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: > At 12:02 PM 7/15/2004 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >On 14 Jul, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: > >> Thanks for the feedback. > >> > >> The problem is that the exim startup code thinks that you are a > privileged > >> user (see "privileged 1" above)

Re: sending email from Cygwin

On 15 Jul, To: Pierre A. Humblet wrote: > : /home/luke ; mkgroup -l >> /etc/group Incidentally, after doing that I see: : /home/luke ; exim -oi luke < /tmp/smff3624 2004-07-15 17:56:06 Exim configuration file /etc/exim.conf has the wrong owner, group, or mode : /home/luke ; ls -l /etc/exim.con

Re: sending email from Cygwin

On Jul 15 01:39, Robert R Schneck wrote: > Pierre A. Humblet wrote: > >Luke Kendall wrote: > >> or that it creates a symlink to sendmail. > > > > exim doesn't. That symlink is created by the cygwin specific exim-config > > script under explicit user control. That avoids possible conflicts with > >

Re: sending email from Cygwin

On Jul 15 17:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 15 Jul, To: Pierre A. Humblet wrote: > > : /home/luke ; mkgroup -l >> /etc/group > > Incidentally, after doing that I see: > > : /home/luke ; exim -oi luke < /tmp/smff3624 > 2004-07-15 17:56:06 Exim configuration file /etc/exim.conf has the wrong o

RE: sending email from Cygwin

Robert R Schneck wrote on Thursday, July 15, 2004 3:39 AM: > Pierre A. Humblet wrote: >> Luke Kendall wrote: >>> or that it creates a symlink to sendmail. >> >> exim doesn't. That symlink is created by the cygwin specific >> exim-config script under explicit user control. That avoids possible >>

Re: sending email from Cygwin

At 05:57 PM 7/15/2004 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On 15 Jul, To: Pierre A. Humblet wrote: >> : /home/luke ; mkgroup -l >> /etc/group > >Incidentally, after doing that I see: > >: /home/luke ; exim -oi luke < /tmp/smff3624 >2004-07-15 17:56:06 Exim configuration file /etc/exim.conf has the wr

Re: sending email from Cygwin

At 10:18 AM 7/15/2004 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Jul 15 01:39, Robert R Schneck wrote: >> Pierre A. Humblet wrote: >> >Luke Kendall wrote: >> >> or that it creates a symlink to sendmail. >> > >> > exim doesn't. That symlink is created by the cygwin specific exim-config >> > script under ex

Re: sending email from Cygwin

On 15 Jul, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: > >: /home/luke ; exim -oi luke < /tmp/smff3624 > >2004-07-15 17:56:06 Exim configuration file /etc/exim.conf has the wrong > owner, group, or mode > >: /home/luke ; ls -l /etc/exim.conf > >-rwx--+ 1 luke Domain U22025 Aug 29 2002 /etc/exi

Re: sending email from Cygwin

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 11:24:01AM +1000, luke kendal at cisra.canon.com.au wrote: > On 15 Jul, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: > > >: /home/luke ; exim -oi luke < /tmp/smff3624 > > >2004-07-15 17:56:06 Exim configuration file /etc/exim.conf has the wrong > > owner, group, or mode > > >: /home/luke ;

ssmtp man page (Was: Re: sending email from Cygwin)

On 15 Jul, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > Incidentally is it appropriate to include Cygwin-port-specific > > information in a man page? > > Well, from a user perspective it might be cool, but IMHO the original > man page shouldn't be changed, unless it's a change which should be > send up

/usr/share/doc/Cygwin (Was Re: sending email from Cygwin)

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Robert R Schneck wrote: > Corinna Vinschen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think cron should contain a dependency to ssmtp though. It > > would be the same as to have a dependency to exim. And why should > > cron.README contain hints about how to set up ssmtp? That's

Re: ssmtp man page (Was: Re: sending email from Cygwin)

On Jul 16 12:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 15 Jul, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > Incidentally is it appropriate to include Cygwin-port-specific > > > information in a man page? > > > > Well, from a user perspective it might be cool, but IMHO the original > > man page shouldn't be cha

Re: ssmtp man page (Was: Re: sending email from Cygwin)

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jul 16 12:01, luke.kendallcisra.canon.com.au wrote: > > On 15 Jul, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > > Incidentally is it appropriate to include Cygwin-port-specific > > > > information in a man page? > > > > > > Well, from a user perspective it mig

Re: ssmtp man page (Was: Re: sending email from Cygwin)

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 12:01:03PM +1000, luke.kendall wrote: > This is a usability issue. It's hard enough to teach people to type: > > man > > teaching them to type: > > more /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/ssmtp-0.x.y/README.ssmtp-0.x.y I'm partial to: cygcheck -l ssmtp|fgrep README

Re: ssmtp man page (Was: Re: sending email from cygwin)

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 02:25:32PM -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: >On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 12:01:03PM +1000, luke.kendall wrote: >> This is a usability issue. It's hard enough to teach people to type: >> >> man >> >> teaching them to type: >> >> more /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/ssmt

Re: ssmtp man page (Was: Re: sending email from cygwin)

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 02:25:32PM -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > >On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 12:01:03PM +1000, luke.kendall wrote: > >> This is a usability issue. It's hard enough to teach people to type: > >> > >>man > >> > >> teaching

Re: ssmtp man page (Was: Re: sending email from cygwin)

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 09:53:44PM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 02:25:32PM -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: >> >On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 12:01:03PM +1000, luke.kendall wrote: >> >> This is a usability issue. It's h

Re: ssmtp man page (Was: Re: sending email from cygwin)

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 09:53:44PM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 02:25:32PM -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > > >I'm partial to: > > > > > > cygcheck -l ssmtp|fgrep README|xargs less > > > > > >myself. Works

RE: ssmtp man page (Was: Re: sending email from Cygwin)

> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski > Sent: 16 July 2004 20:12 > > > This is a usability issue. It's hard enough to teach > people to type: > > > > > > man > > > > > > teaching them to type: > > > > > > more /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/ssmtp-0.x.y/READ

RE: ssmtp man page (Was: Re: sending email from Cygwin)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (= Dave K, I believe) > Another possibility would be for the very last dialog in setup.exe, > the one that says "download/install complete", to also say in very > big letters "For Cygwin-specific documentation, see > /usr/share/doc/Cygwin". It could maybe even have a tic

RE: ssmtp man page (Was: Re: sending email from Cygwin)

At 10:51 AM 7/18/2004, you wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >(= Dave K, I believe) >> Another possibility would be for the very last dialog in setup.exe, >> the one that says "download/install complete", to also say in very >> big letters "For Cygwin-specific documentation, see >> /usr/share/doc/

RE: ssmtp man page (Was: Re: sending email from Cygwin)

> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Larry Hall > Sent: 18 July 2004 18:13 > At 10:51 AM 7/18/2004, you wrote: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >(= Dave K, I believe) > >> Another possibility would be for the very last dialog in > setup.exe, > >> the one that says "downlo

Re: ssmtp man page (Was: Re: sending email from cygwin)

On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 01:43:18PM +0100, Dave Korn wrote: >>Another possible place to mention the Cygwin-specific READMEs is in the >>"man cygwin" page. :-) > >Another possibility would be for the very last dialog in setup.exe, the >one that says "download/install complete", to also say in very b

Re: /usr/share/doc/Cygwin (Was Re: sending email from Cygwin)

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Robert R Schneck wrote: > > > Corinna Vinschen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] Whoops, and a (very belated) to both of us... :-) Igor --

Re: /usr/share/doc/Cygwin (Was Re: sending email from Cygwin)

On 14 Jul, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > Yep, that would be a very good idea. In particular, it should point out > that the information in the READMEs in /usr/share/doc/Cygwin takes > precedence over that in the package READMEs and manpages. > > Maybe even an FAQ entry like "I've followed d

Re: /usr/share/doc/Cygwin (Was Re: sending email from Cygwin)

On Jul 15 10:01, you wrote: > On 14 Jul, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > Yep, that would be a very good idea. In particular, it should point out > > that the information in the READMEs in /usr/share/doc/Cygwin takes > > precedence over that in the package READMEs and manpages. > > > > Maybe

Re: /usr/share/doc/Cygwin (Was Re: sending email from Cygwin)

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:47:39 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > Can I also suggest that the FAQ's section called "Where can I get more > > information? / Where's the documentation?" would be an excellent place > > to mention that all the per-package readme files are collected together > > in /usr/s