Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Doctor Bill
I know, this thread is so far off topic it is silly. To bad a moderator can't retroactively kill messages to a mailing list... BTW. I think I was wrong, it was Saturday Night Live. TGFTM (Thank Goodness For Threaded Mail). Bill On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:11:28 -0700, Karl

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Doctor Bill
The Carol Burnett Show: 01/10/1976, Is it a dessert topping or a floor wax? "Saturday Night Live's" Chevy Chase delivers the good news that new "Shimmer" is both On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:10:02 -0400, Doctor Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Monty Python? Hmmm. I thought it was a reference to the

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Karl M
Hi All... I am curious, though. Apparently it was the "dessert topping" comment that was considered rude? Everyone understands the reference, right? Yes...Should each of us answer the question individually? (:>) _ Check out Election

RE: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Dave Korn
> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Doctor Bill > Sent: 21 September 2004 18:10 > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:53:06 +0100, Dave Korn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey dude! PCYMTNQ... ahh, forget it! > > > -Original Message- > > > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Ch

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Doctor Bill
Monty Python? Hmmm. I thought it was a reference to the Carol Barnett Show. I remember a skit which was a fake commercial arguing if something was a desert topping or a floor wax. The answer was both. How convenient... On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:53:06 +0100, Dave Korn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

RE: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Dave Korn
> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > Sent: 21 September 2004 16:40 > I am curious, though. Apparently it was the "dessert topping" comment > that was considered rude? Everyone understands the reference, right? Had to google it, I admit. We don'

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Christopher Faylor wrote: How about "Cygwin - where it DOES eventually hurt to ask if you start a conversation saying 'I know nothing about X but couldn't you just...' and then keep asking that question in various simple ways even when it is politely implied that it is not possible." How about i

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 03:47:11PM +0100, Dave Korn wrote: >>-Original Message- >>From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Andrew DeFaria >>Sent: 21 September 2004 02:55 > >>>rxvt is only a dessert topping. It is not a floor wax. No amount of >>>buffing is going to give you the shine on your floor

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Dave Korn wrote: -Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Andrew DeFaria Sent: 21 September 2004 02:55 rxvt is only a dessert topping. It is not a floor wax. No amount of buffing is going to give you the shine on your floor that you are hoping for. cgf Well my mom always used

RE: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Dave Korn
> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > Sent: 20 September 2004 20:53 > rxvt is only a dessert topping. It is not a floor wax. No amount of > buffing is going to give you the shine on your floor that you > are hoping > for. Never mind that, why i

RE: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Dave Korn
> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Andrew DeFaria > Sent: 21 September 2004 02:55 > > rxvt is only a dessert topping. It is not a floor wax. No amount of > > buffing is going to give you the shine on your floor that > you are hoping > > for. > > > > cgf > > Well my mo

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Larry Hall
At 10:15 AM 9/21/2004, you wrote: >On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 01:21:25AM -0500, Bobby McNulty wrote: >>What? Did I miss something? > >Sorry, I was just pulling the name of a random cygwin mailing list >regular out of the air. > >Maybe I should have used "Larry Hall" instead... Oh my god! I won, I w

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Bobby McNulty wrote: I am learning more and more about Cygwin as I work with it. I learn from my mistakes. Does he? He needs an attitude adjustment. You should talk about attitude adjustments! All I'm asking for is a work around for a problem when dealing with certain Windows apps under Cygwin.

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Bobby McNulty
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 01:21:25AM -0500, Bobby McNulty wrote: What? Did I miss something? Sorry, I was just pulling the name of a random cygwin mailing list regular out of the air. Maybe I should have used "Larry Hall" instead... -- Unsubscribe info: http://c

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 01:21:25AM -0500, Bobby McNulty wrote: >What? Did I miss something? Sorry, I was just pulling the name of a random cygwin mailing list regular out of the air. Maybe I should have used "Larry Hall" instead... -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simp

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 10:43:55AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Sep 20 11:57, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >>>You should be able to start a command in a new console window with >>>"cygstart" (q.v.). >> >>Yes I can, however this starts it in another "Windows window" that does >>not easily resize, h

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Bobby McNulty
I am learning more and more about Cygwin as I work with it. I learn from my mistakes. Does he? He needs an attitude adjustment. You should talk about attitude adjustments! All I'm asking for is a work around for a problem when dealing with certain Windows apps under Cygwin. Is this somehow a

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Sep 20 11:57, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > >You should be able to start a command in a new console window with > >"cygstart" (q.v.). > > Yes I can, however this starts it in another "Windows window" that does > not easily resize, has crappy copy/paste semantics, colors and fonts. > IOW all the re

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-21 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Bobby McNulty wrote: What? Did I miss something? Apparently lots! Chris, this guy has no clue as to what he's talking about. I beg to differ. I don't know much about ptys - BFD - sue me. That does not mean, however, that I don't know anything. He's worse than me when I first started. Then you mus

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Bobby McNulty
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 06:54:59PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Seriously though I was just asking whether it would be possible I think that was obvious to you, me, and Bobby McNulty. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem re

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 06:54:59PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Seriously though I was just asking whether it would be possible I think that was obvious to you, me, and Bobby McNulty. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Brian Dessent
Andrew DeFaria wrote: > Seriously though I was just asking whether it would be possible and > trying to gain an understanding as to the issues involved - you need not > be rude about it. A simple, "that's not possible to do the way things > are set up" would have sufficed. Cygwin: You'll come for

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 11:57:09AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:46:32AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Would it be possible to implement a command then that says exec this with tty's instead of ptys? Cygwin ttys and ptys a

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 03:19:12PM -0400, Larry Hall wrote: >At 02:57 PM 9/20/2004, you wrote: >>Christopher Faylor wrote: >>>On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:46:32AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Would it be possible to implement a command then that says exec this with tty's instead of ptys? >>>

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 11:57:09AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: > >>On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:46:32AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >> >>>Would it be possible to implement a command then that says exec this >>>with tty's instead of ptys? >> >>Cygwin ttys and ptys are the

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Larry Hall
At 02:57 PM 9/20/2004, you wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: > >>On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:46:32AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >> >>>Would it be possible to implement a command then that says exec this with tty's >>>instead of ptys? >> >>Cygwin ttys and ptys are the same thing. > >OK how about

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:46:32AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Would it be possible to implement a command then that says exec this with tty's instead of ptys? Cygwin ttys and ptys are the same thing. OK how about a command that says start this Windows console mode app

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:46:32AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Would it be possible to implement a command then that says exec this >with tty's instead of ptys? Cygwin ttys and ptys are the same thing. You should be able to start a command in a new console window with "cygstart" (q.v.). -- Uns

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:24:44AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 07:15:46AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Is there a CYGWIN setting to tell rxvt not to use ptys? How could a program like rxvt possibly work without ptys? I hav

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:24:44AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: >>On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 07:15:46AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >>>Is there a CYGWIN setting to tell rxvt not to use ptys? >> >>How could a program like rxvt possibly work without ptys? > >I have no idea.

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Brian Dessent wrote: Andrew DeFaria wrote: What you're seeing is caused by the output of the program going through a tty (or pty as the case may be.) When you run it from a straight cmd.exe it's not using tty code (unless you have CYGWIN=tty set.) From my meagre knowledge of the subject it has t

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 07:15:46AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Is there a CYGWIN setting to tell rxvt not to use ptys? How could a program like rxvt possibly work without ptys? I have no idea. I don't know how nor why they are required. Perhaps you could enlighten us? 'C

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Brian Dessent
Andrew DeFaria wrote: > > What you're seeing is caused by the output of the program going > > through a tty (or pty as the case may be.) When you run it from a > > straight cmd.exe it's not using tty code (unless you have CYGWIN=tty > > set.) From my meagre knowledge of the subject it has to do wi

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 07:15:46AM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Is there a CYGWIN setting to tell rxvt not to use ptys? How could a program like rxvt possibly work without ptys? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.h

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 02:27:42AM -0700, Brian Dessent wrote: >overbored wrote: >>There are some cmd shell programs that don't run well in rxvt. Most >>noticeably, they don't always immediately write out their output. They >>seem to work fine in the default cmd window though (doesn't matter if >

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Brian Dessent wrote: overbored wrote: There are some cmd shell programs that don't run well in rxvt. Most noticeably, they don't always immediately write out their output. They seem to work fine in the default cmd window though (doesn't matter if it's in cmd or in bash). Does anybody know what t

Re: Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread Brian Dessent
overbored wrote: > There are some cmd shell programs that don't run well in rxvt. Most > noticeably, they don't always immediately write out their output. They > seem to work fine in the default cmd window though (doesn't matter if > it's in cmd or in bash). Does anybody know what the problem is h

Running cmd programs in cygwin / rxvt

2004-09-20 Thread overbored
There are some cmd shell programs that don't run well in rxvt. Most noticeably, they don't always immediately write out their output. They seem to work fine in the default cmd window though (doesn't matter if it's in cmd or in bash). Does anybody know what the problem is here, and how to fix it