Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-03-24 Thread Mark Hansen
On 3/24/2016 3:49 PM, Mark Hansen wrote: Here is an FAQ on this topic: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-xserver-nolisten-tcp-default Here are the last two announcements in which there were major changes to the xinit package; both of them spelled out the changes very clearly:

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-03-24 Thread Mark Hansen
Here is an FAQ on this topic: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-xserver-nolisten-tcp-default Here are the last two announcements in which there were major changes to the xinit package; both of them spelled out the changes very clearly: https://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-announce

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-23 Thread Jaakov
> On 2/23/2016 3:42 PM, Jaakov wrote: >Ken, I'll try your file, thanks a lot! >But let us recapitulate that such files get outdated very quickly. > Your best defense against this is to read the xinit release > announcements. You can always ask for help if you want to change the > new behav

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-23 Thread Ken Brown
On 2/23/2016 3:42 PM, Jaakov wrote: Ken, I'll try your file, thanks a lot! But let us recapitulate that such files get outdated very quickly. Your best defense against this is to read the xinit release announcements. You can always ask for help if you want to change the new behavior and are

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-23 Thread Jaakov
Ken, I'll try your file, thanks a lot! But let us recapitulate that such files get outdated very quickly. Frankly speaking, I would be most probably lost when in need to adapt some part of your file. (E.g., the documentation http://x.cygwin.com/docs/man1/startxwin.1.html from January 28, 2016

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-22 Thread Ken Brown
On 2/22/2016 4:51 PM, Ken Brown wrote: There's no need for this complexity. If you don't like what the system startxwinrc does, just copy it to ~/.startxwinrc and modify it to suit your purposes. For example, something like the attached .startxwinrc might do what you want. Ken #!/bin/sh #

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-22 Thread Ken Brown
On 2/22/2016 3:55 PM, Jaakov wrote: ... And yet a third alternative would be to automatically install a default $HOME/.startxwinrc during updates. That would completely defeat the purpose of ~/.startxwinrc, which is to allow the user to override the system startxwinrc. Ken -- Problem repor

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-22 Thread Ken Brown
On 2/22/2016 3:46 PM, Jaakov wrote: Ah, perhaps. There may be ways to catch that, but it may be easier for the OP to copy the startxwinrc file's contents. Not the best for responding to future changes ... One way to prevent recursion is if [[ "$FILEINCLUDED" != "1" ]]; then export FILEINC

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-22 Thread Jaakov
... And yet a third alternative would be to automatically install a default $HOME/.startxwinrc during updates. ... -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: ht

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-22 Thread Jaakov
Ah, perhaps. There may be ways to catch that, but it may be easier for the OP to copy the startxwinrc file's contents. Not the best for responding to future changes ... One way to prevent recursion is if [[ "$FILEINCLUDED" != "1" ]]; then export FILEINCLUDED=1 ... # do real job here fi

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-21 Thread Eliot Moss
On 2/21/2016 8:59 PM, Ken Brown wrote: On 2/21/2016 6:21 PM, Eliot Moss wrote: On 2/21/2016 4:28 PM, Jaakov Jaakov wrote: Why not do: xterm ... & /etc/X11/xinit/startxwinrc Do this in your personal .startxwinrc file ... Won't this lead to an infinite recursion? (See https://www.cy

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-21 Thread Ken Brown
On 2/21/2016 6:21 PM, Eliot Moss wrote: On 2/21/2016 4:28 PM, Jaakov Jaakov wrote: Why not do: xterm ... & /etc/X11/xinit/startxwinrc Do this in your personal .startxwinrc file ... Won't this lead to an infinite recursion? (See https://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2016-02/msg00325.html

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-21 Thread Eliot Moss
On 2/21/2016 4:28 PM, Jaakov Jaakov wrote: Why not do: xterm ... & /etc/X11/xinit/startxwinrc Do this in your personal .startxwinrc file ... EM -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.

Re: Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-21 Thread Jaakov Jaakov
Why not do: xterm ... & /etc/X11/xinit/startxwinrc ? Where do you suggest to do it? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#u

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-21 Thread Eliot Moss
Why not do: xterm ... & /etc/X11/xinit/startxwinrc ? Regards -- Eliot Moss -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple

RE: Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-21 Thread Jaakov Jaakov
> Dear Marco: > > So, are you saying that not starting xterm is by design? yes Well, then, apparently, the design changed several months ago. >> http://x.cygwin.com/docs/man1/startxwin.1.html > > The manpage above is a bit outdated; creating a .startxwinrc with > > xrdb -load $HOME/.Xresou

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-21 Thread Marco Atzeri
On 21/02/2016 19:24, Jaakov Jaakov wrote: Dear Marco: So, are you saying that not starting xterm is by design? yes http://x.cygwin.com/docs/man1/startxwin.1.html The manpage above is a bit outdated; creating a .startxwinrc with xrdb -load $HOME/.Xresources xbiff -geometry -430+5 & oclock

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-21 Thread Jaakov Jaakov
Dear Marco: So, are you saying that not starting xterm is by design? http://x.cygwin.com/docs/man1/startxwin.1.html The manpage above is a bit outdated; creating a .startxwinrc with xrdb -load $HOME/.Xresources xbiff -geometry -430+5 & oclock -geometry 75x75-0-0 & xload -geometry -80-0 & xt

Re: XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-21 Thread Marco Atzeri
On 21/02/2016 15:38, Jaakov Jaakov wrote: Dear all: How to make xterm start automatically on XWin start? When I run XWin from a Windows shortcut, the X Server starts, but not an xterm. The same happens when I run startxwin from a cygwin terminal. (After the X server starts, choosing xterm from t

XWin won't run xterm on start

2016-02-21 Thread Jaakov Jaakov
Dear all: How to make xterm start automatically on XWin start? When I run XWin from a Windows shortcut, the X Server starts, but not an xterm. The same happens when I run startxwin from a cygwin terminal. (After the X server starts, choosing xterm from the graphical menu does bring up an xt