Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 09:31:50AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: The idea of a third party packager's guide sounds good to me. I'd rather have third parties not to pack Cygwin in their packages at all and to point the user to install Cygwin from cygwin.com instead, but I guess that's rather

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Jim Kleckner
Christopher Faylor wrote: OTOH, perhaps I'm oversimplifying things, but it seems like this thread went on for quite a while after the simple delete the nonstandard DLL advice was given. I don't see how any advice is going to be useful if it isn't followed. I agree completely. All the more reason

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 08:08:16AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: OTOH, perhaps I'm oversimplifying things, but it seems like this thread went on for quite a while after the simple delete the nonstandard DLL advice was given. I don't see how any advice is going to be useful

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Jim Kleckner
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 08:08:16AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: OTOH, perhaps I'm oversimplifying things, but it seems like this thread went on for quite a while after the simple delete the nonstandard DLL advice was given. I don't see how any

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 08:45:10AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 08:08:16AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: OTOH, perhaps I'm oversimplifying things, but it seems like this thread went on for quite a while after the simple

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Jim Kleckner
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 08:45:10AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: So, if you're a Unix guy since 1978, that puts you in a unique category. You don't qualify as a FAQ. I don't quite understand this. I don't qualify to write FAQ entries or shouldn't be allowed to use them? I

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 09:57:44AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 08:45:10AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: So, if you're a Unix guy since 1978, that puts you in a unique category. You don't qualify as a FAQ. I don't quite understand this. I don't

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Jim Kleckner
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 09:57:44AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: Then strike the link text and limit it to the workaround of adding the bin to the system path. My text was a suggested starting point. i.e., a workaround. The solution that the DLL has to be in the system

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 11:20:16AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 09:57:44AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: Then strike the link text and limit it to the workaround of adding the bin to the system path. My text was a suggested starting point. i.e., a

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-29 Thread Jim Kleckner
Larry Hall wrote: At 10:20 PM 3/24/2005, Brian Dessent wrote: A symlink won't work, because it's Windows own loader that searches for and loads any .DLLs called for by an .exe. Windows does not understand symlinks as they are a Cygwin thing, so you can't symlink a DLL and expect it to load.

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-29 Thread Larry Hall
At 05:49 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote: Larry Hall wrote: At 10:20 PM 3/24/2005, Brian Dessent wrote: A symlink won't work, because it's Windows own loader that searches for and loads any .DLLs called for by an .exe. Windows does not understand symlinks as they are a Cygwin thing, so you can't

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-29 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar 29 22:55, Larry Hall wrote: At 05:49 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote: If there is interest, I am willing to take a crack at pulling together the information that is sprinkled in email threads about how to avoid trampling on existing cygwin installations. Eventually, there really should be a

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 10:50:07AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: I had a user install clamwin and as discussed on the list here: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-09/msg00288.html it blithely installs cygwin1.dll regardless of any installation of cygwin. This predictably causes problems.

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Larry Hall
At 01:50 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: I had a user install clamwin and as discussed on the list here: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-09/msg00288.html it blithely installs cygwin1.dll regardless of any installation of cygwin. This predictably causes problems. Searching through the user

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Kleckner
Larry Hall wrote: At 01:50 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: I had a user install clamwin and as discussed on the list here: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-09/msg00288.html it blithely installs cygwin1.dll regardless of any installation of cygwin. This predictably causes problems. Searching

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Kleckner
Jim Kleckner wrote: This is helpful, thank you. Being curious and trying to be minimal about changes to the system in question, I tried removing and linking the dll in place. I first tried ln -s /bin/cygwin1.dll in the clamwin/bin directory and wasn't surprised that it didn't work. Being Unix

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 06:13:55PM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: My question now is, can ln be used to work around this issue or is that a bad idea? It's a bad idea. Just delete the spurious DLL. No special action is required if the cygwin dll is in the PATH. PS. Since cgf is steadfast, perhaps

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Brian Dessent
Jim Kleckner wrote: This is helpful, thank you. Being curious and trying to be minimal about changes to the system in question, I tried removing and linking the dll in place. I first tried ln -s /bin/cygwin1.dll in the clamwin/bin directory and wasn't surprised that it didn't work.

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Larry Hall
At 10:20 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: Jim Kleckner wrote: This is helpful, thank you. Being curious and trying to be minimal about changes to the system in question, I tried removing and linking the dll in place. I first tried ln -s /bin/cygwin1.dll in the clamwin/bin directory and wasn't

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Jim Kleckner wrote: PS. Since cgf is steadfast, perhaps this explanation could be added to the FAQ entry located here that partially explains why multiple dlls is a problem: http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_3.html#SEC50 We have a link for such applications: