Re: cygwin patches integrating back into standard gnu

2003-11-07 Thread Charles Wilson
Robert Collins wrote: But they didn't really pursue this too strongly -- instead, they focused on attempting to make the transition smooth ('autoupdate', etc). They ignored the network-stasis effects (essentially, a classic 'deadlock' problem: you first, no you first...) Yes, and IMO a nutso

Re: cygwin patches integrating back into standard gnu

2003-11-07 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 14:28, cwilson wrote: > > It'd probably be wise to integrate this with setup.exe so you would > > have the option to install packages in a non-standard place. > > Oh god no. "Click here to automatically fsck-up all the binaries I just > installed" THAT's a GREAT idea!

Re: cygwin patches integrating back into standard gnu

2003-11-07 Thread Charles Wilson
cwilson wrote: So that YOU don't have to? (And wait. What are the current cygwin maintainers doing so badly that you want to take over and redo their jobs for them?) Look. Patches should go back to the upstream package. There should not be a bunch of extant, uncommitted patches laying about

Re: cygwin patches integrating back into standard gnu

2003-11-07 Thread cwilson
Edward S. Peschko wrote: See, to build a shared lib, you really really need to use libtool-devel, which is libtool-1.5, and which requires automake > 1.5.0 and autoconf > 2.50. However, those packages are just now -- after 1.5 years -- coming into widespread use, because that's just silly. Gnu

Re: cygwin patches integrating back into standard gnu

2003-11-07 Thread Edward S. Peschko
> See, to build a shared lib, you really really need to use libtool-devel, > which is libtool-1.5, and which requires automake > 1.5.0 and autoconf > > 2.50. However, those packages are just now -- after 1.5 years -- coming > into widespread use, because > > 1) autoconf 2.5x is in some ways

Re: cygwin patches integrating back into standard gnu

2003-11-06 Thread Charles Wilson
Charles Wilson wrote: 1) most (upstream) maintainers want small, easily digestible patches -- so mega-patches must be split up into functional units. See, for instance, this week's libtool-patches mailing list. http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/libtool-patches/2003-11/index.html -- Chuck -- Uns

Re: cygwin patches integrating back into standard gnu

2003-11-06 Thread Charles Wilson
Edward S. Peschko wrote: I was curious - exactly what is the process to submit cygwin patches to the respective projects that support cygwin as a target? I've been integrating cygwin into the build for the OSes I support, and I find that there are hundreds of thousands of lines of patches for cygw

cygwin patches integrating back into standard gnu

2003-11-06 Thread Edward S. Peschko
I was curious - exactly what is the process to submit cygwin patches to the respective projects that support cygwin as a target? I've been integrating cygwin into the build for the OSes I support, and I find that there are hundreds of thousands of lines of patches for cygwin (around 400k). Som