Re: [ADMINISTRIVIA] Revamped spam blocking for this mailing list

2002-03-17 Thread Earnie Boyd
Christopher Faylor wrote: > > Please don't be one > of those people if you can help it. > Ha. ROTFLOL. Earnie. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

[ADMINISTRIVIA] Revamped spam blocking for this mailing list

2002-03-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
I've just crossed my fingers and set up the cygwin and cygwin-apps mailing lists to use some revamped spam blocking software that I've written for sources.redhat.com. I won't go into details of what is new because I'm still working on things. Basically, for now, I have revamped stuff to make it

Re: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 01:59:21PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: >>If someone wants to contribute, I think it should just be a standard >>package. >> >>Chuck, I hate to say this, but I don't see a real reason for growing >>cygutils. The more packages we add to cygutils,

Re: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Charles Wilson
Christopher Faylor wrote: > If someone wants to contribute, I think it should just be a standard > package. > > Chuck, I hate to say this, but I don't see a real reason for growing > cygutils. The more packages we add to cygutils, the more we go back to > the old way of installing cygwin packa

Re: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Earnie Boyd
Christopher Faylor wrote: > > >>>Well, my interest begins and ends with the file creation being moved > >>>somewhere sensible. Simply running setup should not create > >>>/etc/profile any more than installing sed. > >> > >>Yep. Agreed. > >> > >I'm not sure I agree. It doesn't matter what creat

Re: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 11:44:07AM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: >Back to the original subject, 'more', what if we actually provided a >more.exe binary? more != less, since they DO behave differently. If >somebody wanted to adapt the attached source (taken from the util-linux >distribution) so th

RE: libtool devel auto-import broken

2002-03-17 Thread Stephano Mariani
I made some minor modifications because I am using a patched binutils (for preventing all symbols in the global scope from being exported) with which libtool cannot find a sed pattern for finding symbols to export when a .sym file is not given. The test for the "checking to see how to parse nm-B o

Re: libtool devel auto-import broken

2002-03-17 Thread Charles Wilson
Okay, the testing versions of automake-devel (automake-1.6) and libtool-devel (libtool-20020316) are up at http://www.neuro.gatech.edu/users/cwilson/cygutils/testing/ If you use the latest setup.exe snapshot, add that URL to the 'download locations' list, and use setup to install these test

Re: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Charles Wilson
Back to the original subject, 'more', what if we actually provided a more.exe binary? more != less, since they DO behave differently. If somebody wanted to adapt the attached source (taken from the util-linux distribution) so that it builds within cygutils, I'd add it to the package. See /u

Re: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 11:08:17AM -0500, Earnie Boyd wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: >>On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 02:56:30AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: -Original Message- From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:39 AM >>> Actua

Re: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Earnie Boyd
Christopher Faylor wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 02:56:30AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:39 AM > > > >>Actually, I don't think there is any reason to have a default >

Re: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 02:56:30AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:39 AM > >>Actually, I don't think there is any reason to have a default >>/etc/profile for ash. I think it is rea

RE: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:39 AM > Actually, I don't think there is any reason to have a default > /etc/profile for ash. I think it is really only useful for > bash. The current /etc/profile seems to

Re: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 02:29:01AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> Actually, IIRC, I had some reservations about the "generic >> base-files" concept which I don't think I ever got a >> satisfactory respon

RE: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Actually, IIRC, I had some reservations about the "generic > base-files" concept which I don't think I ever got a > satisfactory response to. The ones I recall where a) The name. b) Should the files go in w

Re: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 02:23:38AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Earnie Boyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:19 AM > >> > Could do - chat to Chris, the basefiles package maintainer :}. >> > >> >> Sorry, once upon a time, som

RE: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Earnie Boyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:19 AM > > Could do - chat to Chris, the basefiles package maintainer :}. > > > > Sorry, once upon a time, some time ago, setup wrote that file > directly. > And, I've not kept up wi

Re: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Earnie Boyd
Robert Collins wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Earnie Boyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:19 AM > > > > I suppose you could do this but the purists would say you should do > > > > > > export PAGER /bin/less > > > > > > > Good point. Hey,

RE: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Earnie Boyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:19 AM > > I suppose you could do this but the purists would say you should do > > > > export PAGER /bin/less > > > > Good point. Hey, Robert, why not add this to the > /et

RE: libtool devel auto-import broken

2002-03-17 Thread Stephano Mariani
I see. In any case, your patch was just the ticket (with some minor modifications) :). I can now build my libraries as intended without all the symbols in the global scope being exported. :) Thanks, Stephano Mariani > -Original Message- > From: Robert Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread Earnie Boyd
David Starks-Browning wrote: > > On Saturday 16 Mar 02, David A. Cobb writes: > > I'm finding that common tasks like configure sometimes depend on > > "more", which we don't have. I can make it work by "ln -s /usr/bin/more > > /usr/bin/less". I suppose the related info files should lik

RE: libtool devel auto-import broken

2002-03-17 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Stephano Mariani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 10:52 PM > To: Robert Collins; 'Charles Wilson' > Cc: 'CygWin-Apps' > Subject: RE: libtool devel auto-import broken > > > I understand that, but you mentioned that what is being >

RE: libtool devel auto-import broken

2002-03-17 Thread Stephano Mariani
I understand that, but you mentioned that what is being accomplished by patching binutils is also possible by other means that do not involve rebuilding ld; libtool should be able to detect this and use the alternate method... I don't mind supplying a list of symbols to export. If this is not pos

RE: libtool devel auto-import broken

2002-03-17 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Stephano Mariani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 9:44 PM > To: Robert Collins; 'Charles Wilson' > Cc: 'CygWin-Apps' > Subject: RE: libtool devel auto-import broken > > > Isn't it better to have this functionality within libtool...

RE: libtool devel auto-import broken

2002-03-17 Thread Stephano Mariani
Isn't it better to have this functionality within libtool... doesn't it exist for this purpose? Personally, I would love a tool that allows me to build shared libs on windows/cygwin, linux, and solaris with ease. Stephano Mariani > -Original Message- > From: Robert Collins [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: libtool devel auto-import broken

2002-03-17 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Stephano Mariani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 9:12 PM > To: 'Charles Wilson'; Robert Collins > Cc: 'CygWin-Apps' > Subject: RE: libtool devel auto-import broken > > > I would like to test these new versions of the autotools if

RE: libtool devel auto-import broken

2002-03-17 Thread Stephano Mariani
I would like to test these new versions of the autotools if I may. I am a very autotools dependent user and use it frequently enough to warrant dissecting it and learning much more about their internals :) I have noticed however that using automake (1.5) and libtool (1.4e) there is no way to prev

RE: libtool devel auto-import broken

2002-03-17 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Charles Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:25 PM > > I'll whip up a new libtool-devel package soon. What's the story with > the automake-1.6 package I put up? Had a chance to play with it yet? Fraid not, I've only just r

Re: libtool devel auto-import broken

2002-03-17 Thread Charles Wilson
Hmmm...there's a line in ltmain.sh that says: -allow-undefined) # FIXME: remove this flag sometime in the future. $echo "$modename: \`-allow-undefined' is deprecated because it is the default" 1>&2 continue ;; Actually, libtool.m4 is an original file.

Link for MORE

2002-03-17 Thread David Starks-Browning
On Saturday 16 Mar 02, David A. Cobb writes: > I'm finding that common tasks like configure sometimes depend on > "more", which we don't have. I can make it work by "ln -s /usr/bin/more > /usr/bin/less". I suppose the related info files should likely be done > also(?). > I propos