Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Dave Korn
Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:49:05AM +0100, Dave Korn wrote: >> I was wondering what percentage of the repository is sufficiently >> g-b-s-tastic or cygport-ified to be able to more-or-less automatedly >> rebuild. > > What does "automatically rebuilt" mean? Are you sayin

Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:49:05AM +0100, Dave Korn wrote: >I was wondering what percentage of the repository is sufficiently >g-b-s-tastic or cygport-ified to be able to more-or-less automatedly >rebuild. What does "automatically rebuilt" mean? Are you saying that one person would rebuild everyt

Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Dave Korn
Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Apr 3 11:30, Charles Wilson wrote: >> If I rebuild gettext using gcc4 AND if the switch to gcc4 + shared >> libgcc means that there is some sort of breakage (e.g. between a client >> that uses the old, static runtime, and this DLL that uses the new, >> dynamic runtime)

Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 3 13:54, Charles Wilson wrote: > So, if I understand correctly, you're (gently) advocating > > #1) don't bump the ABI number of DLLs just because of cygwin-1.7/gcc4 > (of course, if there is some OTHER reason that the ABI changes, then the > DLL number SHOULD be bumped). > #2) hope that no

Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Charles Wilson
Corinna Vinschen wrote: > I'm not sure there is really such a interdependency. Shouldn't the > static libgcc3 functions and the new shared gcc4 libgcc functions > co-exist and not notice each other? Unless they are supposed to both update the same data structure (e.g. unwinding code) but have dif

Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 3 11:30, Charles Wilson wrote: > If I rebuild gettext using gcc4 AND if the switch to gcc4 + shared > libgcc means that there is some sort of breakage (e.g. between a client > that uses the old, static runtime, and this DLL that uses the new, > dynamic runtime) -- then EVERY package that re

Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Charles Wilson
cgf wrote: > As one of the maintainers who falls in the sporadically active category > I really don't relish the thought of a flag day version bump. Me neither. I'm STILL struggling to work my way through recompiling "my" packages for cygwin-1.7 *without* any attempts towards gcc4. But the alte

Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Charles Wilson
Corinna Vinschen wrote: > Many packages have no requirement for a flag day at all. What about > packages like sed, which basically consist of a single application? > What sense does it make to re-build it with gcc4? See below. > Not all maintainers are very active. That's no criticism, it's jus

Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 05:02:24PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Apr 3 10:23, Charles Wilson wrote: >> Yes, and we're (slowly) getting there. BTW, I do not believe the >> following thread >> "[RFC] ABI bump for building with gcc4 ?" >> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2009-03/msg00033.html >

Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 3 10:23, Charles Wilson wrote: > Yes, and we're (slowly) getting there. BTW, I do not believe the > following thread > "[RFC] ABI bump for building with gcc4 ?" > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2009-03/msg00033.html > ever reached a resolution. Only you, Dave, and I participated...any >

Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Dave Korn
Charles Wilson wrote: > But, IMO, it is not legitimate to try to de-facto override Dave's > decision as the gcc maintainer, and MAKE gcc4 the default compiler via Slow down there; Yaakov was not doing anything other than making a reasonable proposal. Note the [RFC] in the subject! cheers,

Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Charles Wilson
Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: >Charles Wilson wrote: >> gcc4 is still an *experimental* release: >> >> We shouldn't default to using it until the gcc maintainer is confident >> enough in it to promote it officially. I know it's a bit of a >> chicken/egg problem, but there you go. > > 1) A few maintaine

Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Dave Korn
Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Apr 3 08:44, Dave Korn wrote: >> Hmm, I feel a third option coming on. >> >> I could do a special case hack, that works just for libstdc++, by putting >> the objects for the overrideable functions into the import library archive >> instead of the DLL. But then we'

Re: [ITA][1.7] GraphicsMagick-1.3.5-2

2009-04-03 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar 22 10:23, Marco Atzeri wrote: > to download > wget -r -np http://matzeri.altervista.org/cygwin-1.7/GraphicsMagick/ > > > ./GraphicsMagick-1.3.5-2-src.tar.bz2 > ./GraphicsMagick-1.3.5-2.tar.bz2 > ./index.html > ./libGraphicsMagick-devel > ./libGraphicsMagick-devel/index.html > ./libGraphic

Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 3 08:44, Dave Korn wrote: > Hmm, I feel a third option coming on. > > I could do a special case hack, that works just for libstdc++, by putting > the objects for the overrideable functions into the import library archive > instead of the DLL. But then we'd still have problems if a lib

Re: [RFC] ready for cygport to default to gcc4?

2009-04-03 Thread Dave Korn
Charles Wilson wrote: > Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: >> Are maintainers ready for cygport-0.9 (for 1.7 only) to default to gcc4? > > No. > > gcc4 is still an *experimental* release: > > "[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: experimental package: gcc4-4.3.2-2" > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2009-03/msg00378.html >

Re: Patch: Setup.exe - search for package

2009-04-03 Thread Dave Korn
Andrew Punch wrote: > So would you like me to do the tooltip, alignment and label - or would > you prefer to do it? Sorry if that wasn't clear; I already added it in the reformatted version of your patch attached to my last message! cheers, DaveK