Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: ??? The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 3 16:39, Charles Wilson wrote: > Ken Brown said: > > But it does seem that the release of 1.7 is a good time to ... > > You know, folks, at some point we need to stop saying "1.7 is a good > time to " and just release it. We already have > the following "backwards incompatible" [*] change

Re: Suggestion for terminal package maintainers

2009-06-04 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 3 14:53, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > Right. That's because the space key does not return any other character > then 0x20 in the Windows console, regardless of the modifier keys you're > pressing. Same goes for Alt-Space which should ideally return Esc-Space > or \240. Maybe we should reall

GCC --enable-auto-import problem

2009-06-04 Thread Huang Bambo
1. download db-4.7.25 from oracle at http://www.oracle.com/database/berkeley-db/index.html (havn't tested on other version) 2. configure like : ../dist/configure --prefix=/home/Bambo/db-for-1.7 --enable-cxx --enable-pthread_api 3. make, it will take you a few minutes 4. write a program like : #incl

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: ??? The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Dave Korn
Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> 6) [possible] switch to gcc4 as official compiler (with associated >> deliberate ABI breakage *without* DLL version number bumps -- see >> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2009-04/msg00034.html). It's pretty >> clear this will happen *eventually*. Whether it happens >> b

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: ??? The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Chris Sutcliffe
> - New versions of GCC and binutils would be nice.  I'd especially >  appreciate if GCC would start to create executables with the TS-aware >  flag by default so that the distro is sort of self-healing in terms of >  running on Terminal Servers. > > Am I missing something else? Any possibility we

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: ??? The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Dave Korn
Chris Sutcliffe wrote: > Any possibility we could get a gcc-4 MinGW cross compiler and drop the > '-mno-cygwin' stuff? It seems to cause no end of confusion. Yes, but it's a lower priority to me than getting the base system solid first. Also, it needs re-arranging w32api and the mingw libs in

Re: Suggestion for terminal package maintainers

2009-06-04 Thread Ken Brown
On 6/4/2009 5:30 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jun 3 14:53, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Right. That's because the space key does not return any other character then 0x20 in the Windows console, regardless of the modifier keys you're pressing. Same goes for Alt-Space which should ideally return E

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: ??? The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 4 12:49, Dave Korn wrote: > Chris Sutcliffe wrote: > > > Any possibility we could get a gcc-4 MinGW cross compiler and drop the > > '-mno-cygwin' stuff? It seems to cause no end of confusion. > > Yes, but it's a lower priority to me than getting the base system solid > first. Also, it

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: ??? The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Charles Wilson
Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jun 3 16:39, Charles Wilson wrote: >> "backwards incompatible" [*] changes I hope it was clear that I wasn't being critical of the fact that there were some major changes in cygwin-1.7. I was just trying to halt the "feature creep", since you (Corinna) have said tha

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: ??? The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Charles Wilson
Chris Sutcliffe wrote: > Any possibility we could get a gcc-4 MinGW cross compiler and drop the > '-mno-cygwin' stuff? It seems to cause no end of confusion. IMO, this might need coordination with the mingw team. We probably want our mingw gcc4 to be compatible with *their* mingw gcc4, right? D

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: ??? The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 09:06:15AM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: >Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> On Jun 3 16:39, Charles Wilson wrote: >>> "backwards incompatible" [*] changes > >I hope it was clear that I wasn't being critical of the fact that there >were some major changes in cygwin-1.7. I was just

Re: GCC --enable-auto-import problem

2009-06-04 Thread Christopher Faylor
Wrong mailing list. Use the main cygwin list for bug reports. See: http://cygwin.com/lists.html for more details.

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: ??? The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Dave Korn
Corinna Vinschen wrote: > As for "low priority". In the short run, as long as the actual mingw > cross compiler isn't available, I assume we could just stick to a gcc-3 > package for this purpose, right? Yep. Static linked mingw apps will be just fine like that. cheers, DaveK

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: ??? The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 4 09:06, Charles Wilson wrote: > Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > On Jun 3 16:39, Charles Wilson wrote: > >> "backwards incompatible" [*] changes > [...] > We don't have time between now and $RELEASEDATE to do any of that. > > That's all I'm saying. ACK. > > > > And it's really not my faul

ASLR sometimes stops working on Vista with 1.7? [was: Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was ...)]

2009-06-04 Thread Charles Wilson
(please direct replies to the main cygwin list; I can't set reply-to on this web interface...) For context, see the bottom of this post: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2009-06/msg00048.html Corinna wrote: > I never, ever saw a problem like this on my Vista/2K8 test VMs. Nor on > the W7 VMs. A

[RFU 1.5 and 1.7] subversion-1.6.2-2 and subversion-1.6.2-4

2009-06-04 Thread David Rothenberger
1.5 wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=2 \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/setup.hint \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-1.6.2-3-src.tar.bz2 \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-1.6.2-3.tar.bz2 \ http

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: ??? The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Chris Sutcliffe
>  Yes, but it's a lower priority to me than getting the base system solid > first.  Also, it needs re-arranging w32api and the mingw libs into a real > cross-$prefix/$target, rather than putting them in subdirs of $prefix/lib and > $prefix/include as we currently do. I'm more than happy to make a

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 01:45:32PM -0400, Chris Sutcliffe wrote: >>Yes, but it's a lower priority to me than getting the base system solid >>first. Also, it needs re-arranging w32api and the mingw libs into a >>real cross-$prefix/$target, rather than putting them in subdirs of >>$prefix/lib and $p

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 01:58:11PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 01:45:32PM -0400, Chris Sutcliffe wrote: >>>Yes, but it's a lower priority to me than getting the base system solid >>>first. Also, it needs re-arranging w32api and the mingw libs into a >>>real cross-$pre

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Chris Sutcliffe
>>Chris, how would you and the other MinGW developers feel about moving >>mingw and w32api somewhere else? > > Just to be clear: By "somewhere else" I meant into their own > repositories, not away from sourceware. I'll bring it up with the other MinGW developers, but from my point of view, I'm mor

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 4 13:58, Christopher Faylor wrote: > Chris, how would you and the other MinGW developers feel about moving > mingw and w32api somewhere else? > > There has been some talk about splitting apart the various components of > the "src" directory (gdb, binutils, cygwin, etc.) and it might be tim

Re: [RFU 1.5 and 1.7] subversion-1.6.2-2 and subversion-1.6.2-4

2009-06-04 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 4 09:18, David Rothenberger wrote: > 1.5 > > wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=2 \ > http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/setup.hint \ > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-1.6.2-3-src.tar.bz2 > \ > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 08:23:11PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Jun 4 13:58, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>Chris, how would you and the other MinGW developers feel about moving >>mingw and w32api somewhere else? >> >>There has been some talk about splitting apart the various components >>of th

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 4 14:48, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 08:23:11PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >Personally I'd rather keep the w32api directory in the same repository > >as Cygwin. It's much more convenient to have the latest CVS version > >always right where it's needed instead

[RFU 1.5 and 1.7] libaprutil1-1.3.4-3 and libaprutil1-1.3.4-4

2009-06-04 Thread David Rothenberger
1.5 wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=2 \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/libaprutil1/aprutil1/aprutil1-1.3.4-3.tar.bz2 \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/libaprutil1/aprutil1/setup.hint \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/libapruti

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 09:40:09PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Jun 4 14:48, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 08:23:11PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> >Personally I'd rather keep the w32api directory in the same repository >> >as Cygwin. It's much more convenient to

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Charles Wilson
Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 09:40:09PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> On Jun 4 14:48, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> And, also, incidentally, the other thing that is being contemplated is >>> moving to a more modern SCM like subversion or git. >> Oh no, not git, please.

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 10:14:57PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: >> I suppose we could just stay with CVS while everyone else moves to git. >> If the repository is splitting (which I think it should have done long >> ago) then it won't matter what we use except that updating a single >> sandbox will

Re: Cygwin 1.7 release (was Re: The library or libraries will be delivered[...])

2009-06-04 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 10:14:57PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: >>On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 09:40:09PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>>On Jun 4 14:48, Christopher Faylor wrote: And, also, incidentally, the other thing that is being contemplated is moving to a more