[ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-12 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
Hi I would like to contribute and maintain the xemacs package: * http://xemacs.org/ (Homepage) * http://ftp.us.xemacs.org/ftp/pub/ (Download location) and also the accompanying packages xemacs-sumo/xemacs-mule-sumo: * http://xemacs.org/Develop/packages.html

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-12 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Dr Volker Zell wrote: Hi I would like to contribute and maintain the xemacs package: * http://xemacs.org/ (Homepage) * http://ftp.us.xemacs.org/ftp/pub/ (Download location) Hi Dr Zell, FYI, the emacs provided via setup is Xemacs, not GNU emacs. So this is a

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-12 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
> "Nicholas" == Nicholas Wourms writes: Nicholas> Dr Volker Zell wrote: >> Hi >> I would like to contribute and maintain the xemacs package: >> * http://xemacs.org/ (Homepage) >> * http://ftp.us.xemacs.org/ftp/pub/ (Download location) N

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 11:16:10AM +0100, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: >Hi > >I would like to contribute and maintain the xemacs package: > > * http://xemacs.org/ (Homepage) > * http://ftp.us.xemacs.org/ftp/pub/ (Download location) > >and also the accompanying packages x

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-12 Thread Charles Wilson
Nicholas Wourms wrote: Dr Volker Zell wrote: Hi I would like to contribute and maintain the xemacs package: * http://xemacs.org/ (Homepage) * http://ftp.us.xemacs.org/ftp/pub/ (Download location) Hi Dr Zell, FYI, the emacs provided via setup is Xemacs, not G

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-12 Thread Charles Wilson
BTW, XEmacs-on-cygwin can be built in two ways: "native MS windowing" and "X11 windowing". The current cygwin version of XEmacs distributed by them is "native MS windowing", so it obviously gets more testing that X11-on-cygwin (I haven't built it in X11 mode for several years). Which windowing

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-12 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
> "Charles" == Charles Wilson writes: Charles> So +1 from me. Thanks Charles> My concern is this: Charles> The XEmacs people have their own distribution of XEmacs for cygwin -- Charles> they even adapted our setup.exe for the purpose. I'd really hate to Charles> tick t

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-12 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 11:16:10AM +0100, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: Hi I would like to contribute and maintain the xemacs package: * http://xemacs.org/ (Homepage) * http://ftp.us.xemacs.org/ftp/pub/ (Download location) and also the accomp

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 09:52:20PM +0100, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: >> "Charles" == Charles Wilson writes: > >Charles> BTW, XEmacs-on-cygwin can be built in two ways: "native MS windowing" >Charles> and "X11 windowing". The current cygwin version of XEmacs distributed >Charles> by the

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-12 Thread Charles Wilson
Dr. Volker Zell wrote: > Charles> Which windowing mode are you proposing? > > X. Well, then there's probably no conflict between your propsed version and the mswindowing one distributed by Andy. > Here is my configure line: > > snipp > ${srcdir}/configure

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-13 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
> "Charles" == Charles Wilson writes: Charles> Dr. Volker Zell wrote: Charles> Which windowing mode are you proposing? >> >> X. Charles> Well, then there's probably no conflict between your propsed version and Charles> the mswindowing one distributed by Andy. Normall

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-13 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Dr Volker Zell wrote [SNIP] I'll try if it works. It should now since the latest X11 has fixed libXt so that a shared Xaw3d works... Charles> that. I also suspect that --with-dragndrop won't work with an X-based Charles> build of XEmacs on cygwin (at least, not in the way we Windows deni

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-13 Thread Charles Wilson
Nicholas Wourms wrote: Charles> would expect...an X-only drag-n-drop wouldn't be that helpful. Why not? We have other X11 packages which could utilize this. Plus, Harold's on a mission to knock the number of X11 packages sky-high, so undoubtly we'll see many more applications which will

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-14 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Charles Wilson wrote: Nicholas Wourms wrote: Charles> would expect...an X-only drag-n-drop wouldn't be that helpful. Why not? We have other X11 packages which could utilize this. Plus, Harold's on a mission to knock the number of X11 packages sky-high, so undoubtly we'll see many more a

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-14 Thread Brian E. Gallew
I'm curious: why not build a dual-mode XEmacs? I've been running a such an XEmacs on my laptop for more than two years now. I use the MSWindows GUI while playing with lilypond code, but fire up the X11 GUI (well, actually I use gnuserv) when I'm doing serious work. Both work fine, and the bu

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-15 Thread Joe Buehler
Christopher Faylor wrote: o In the xemacs package there are two files in common with the standard emacs package /usr/bin/b2m.exe /usr/bin/rcs-checkin How should I deal with them ? I guess you should work this out with Joe Buehler. If they are the same in each package then maybe we can b

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-15 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:01:37AM -0500, Joe Buehler wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: > >>>o In the xemacs package there are two files in common with the standard >>>emacs >>> package >>> >>> /usr/bin/b2m.exe >>> /usr/bin/rcs-checkin >>> >>> How should I deal with them ? >> >> >>I guess you

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-15 Thread Joe Buehler
Christopher Faylor wrote: This was noted during the emacs package development. I moved the tags stuff to a separate package, which I believe is not currently part of the Cygwin mirrors. ? Could you rephrase this? What does this mean? Did you ask someone to upload something and it didn't get

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-15 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:19:38PM -0500, Joe Buehler wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: > >>>This was noted during the emacs package development. I moved the tags >>>stuff to a separate package, which I believe is not currently part >>>of the Cygwin mirrors. >> >>? Could you rephrase this? What

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-15 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Joe Buehler writes: > can provide them separately? > Can anyone comment on how other distributions deal with this issue? Debian uses the alternatives mechanism to deal with the ctags/etags issue: $ update-alternatives --display etags etags - status is auto. link currently points to

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-17 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
> "Charles" == Charles Wilson < writes: Charles> My concern is this: Charles> The XEmacs people have their own distribution of XEmacs for cygwin -- Charles> they even adapted our setup.exe for the purpose. I'd really hate to Charles> tick them off by "stepping on their turf"

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-17 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
> "Christopher" == Christopher Faylor writes: Christopher> On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:19:38PM -0500, Joe Buehler wrote: >> Christopher Faylor wrote: >> This was noted during the emacs package development. I moved the tags stuff to a separate package, which I bel

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-17 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
> "Charles" == Charles Wilson writes: Charles> Dr. Volker Zell wrote: Charles> Which windowing mode are you proposing? >> >> X. Charles> Well, then there's probably no conflict between your propsed version and Charles> the mswindowing one distributed by Andy. No, And

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-17 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
> "Nicholas" == Nicholas Wourms writes: Nicholas> Are the source code differences mutually exclusive or is one a subset Nicholas> of the other. Perhaps merging the changes into the other packages Don't know Nicholas> might be the way to go? AFAIK, ctags and friends don't depend

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-17 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
> "Charles" == Charles Wilson writes: Charles> Nicholas Wourms wrote: Charles> would expect...an X-only drag-n-drop wouldn't be that >>> helpful. >>> >> Why not? We have other X11 packages which could utilize this. >> Plus, Harold's on a mission to knock the number of

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-17 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
> "Nicholas" == Nicholas Wourms writes: Nicholas> As I'm sure you know, RPM handles conflicts gracefully while setup Nicholas> mostly does not. Therefore, this makes things more complicated on Nicholas> Cygwin, since conflicting packages can actually lead to conflicting Nichol

Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-17 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
> "Brian" == Brian E Gallew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> I'm curious: why not build a dual-mode XEmacs? I've been running a Because I never used it. Brian> such an XEmacs on my laptop for more than two years now. I use the Brian> MSWindows GUI while playing with lilypond