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2002-04-01 Thread David A. Cobb
Regarding: "How to create a ksh93 package..." Charles Wilson wrote: > > Maybe we need a top-level /opt directory? OTOH, I see no need for > /usr/ast/* instead of "ksh, and the DLLs go in /usr/bin; stub > executables that are ksh-replacements for "standard

Re: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-29 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 01:10:40AM +0100, Karsten Fleischer wrote: >>Regardless, this isn't what I was asking for. I just asked you if you >>could support ksh. I wasn't expecting a whole slew of other things as >>part of the deal. > >OK, I'll support ksh. Nothing else. Not even the stub execut

FW: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-29 Thread Karsten Fleischer
> -Original Message- > From: Karsten Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Samstag, 30. Marz 2002 01:23 > To: 'Charles Wilson' > Subject: RE: How to create a ksh93 package... > > > > In Karsten's defense, I believe he has been more in

RE: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-29 Thread Karsten Fleischer
> >And I'm not interested in using the GNU tools anymore on Cygwin, since > >I have the AT&T tools now. I'm using them on SunOS, HP-UX, U/Win and > >now on Cygwin, too. > > That's fine, but you realize that this sort of runs counter > to the purpose of the Cygwin project, right? Hmm, maybe I

Re: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-29 Thread Charles Wilson
Christopher Faylor wrote: > However, anything other than ksh needs to go through the standard > package acceptance: http://cygwin.com/setup.html . That sounds reasonable to this observer. > I still have serious supportability concerns wrt including other > programs with similar names as part

Re: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-29 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 04:56:16PM +0100, Karsten Fleischer wrote: >>I'm not interested in AT&T's implementations of other utilities, >>actually. Why would we include those? If they are a requirement for >>ksh then I'm not sure I want ksh. > >And I'm not interested in using the GNU tools anymore

FW: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-29 Thread Karsten Fleischer
Oops, forgot to reply to the list... > -Original Message- > From: Karsten Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Freitag, 29. Marz 2002 17:55 > To: 'Charles Wilson' > Subject: RE: How to create a ksh93 package... > > > > > There are > 1

RE: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-29 Thread Karsten Fleischer
> I'm not interested in AT&T's implementations of other > utilities, actually. Why would we include those? If they > are a requirement for ksh then I'm not sure I want ksh. And I'm not interested in using the GNU tools anymore on Cygwin, since I have the AT&T tools now. I'm using them on SunO

Re: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-28 Thread Charles Wilson
First, read my other message (sent immediately prior to this one) Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 11:21:22AM -0500, Fleischer, Karsten (K.) wrote: > >>Would other executables that are not stub executables but alternative >>version to existing commands go there, too? AT&T ha

Re: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-28 Thread Charles Wilson
Fleischer, Karsten (K.) wrote: > I'd prefer the name /usr/libexec/ast then. > Would other executables that are not stub executables but alternative version to >existing commands go there, too? > AT&T have own versions of dd, df, du, ed, expand, file, find, grep, od, pr, sed, >sort, strings, et

Re: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-28 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 11:21:22AM -0500, Fleischer, Karsten (K.) wrote: >Would other executables that are not stub executables but alternative >version to existing commands go there, too? AT&T have own versions of >dd, df, du, ed, expand, file, find, grep, od, pr, sed, sort, strings, >etc. The

RE: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-28 Thread Fleischer, Karsten (K.)
> > I'd prefer a seperate dir not hidden too deep in the tree, > where all > > the ast utilities (including ksh) get installed, e.g. > > /usr/ast/ bin > >fun > >lib > >man > > Bad. With one exception, we've decided not to clutter the top level > /usr

Re: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-28 Thread Charles Wilson
Fleischer, Karsten (K.) wrot > Absolutely. This holds for the following utilities: > > basename cmp dirname head mkdirrev tee > cat comm expr id mkfifo rm tty > chgrpcp fmt join mv rmdiruname > chmod

Re: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-28 Thread Fleischer, Karsten (K.)
Sorry for breaking the thread indexing, but I haven't been subscribed to cygwin-apps, until now and somehow I couldn't get the messages via [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I doing a copy-and-paste from my web browser. > >> part shall change with minor updates, so I think "ksh93m+-1" would > >> be the cor

Re: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-27 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 07:11:27PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: >Charles Wilson wrote: >>I suggest that the ksh-specific binaries should just go into >>/usr/bin/ksh/ > >or maybe /usr/libexec/ksh/ That might be ok. At least it is hidden a couple of levels down in the directory structure. cgf

Re: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-27 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 07:10:15PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: >> Do we really need to install other UNIX-like utilities? That will be >> very confusing for users, I think. Can't ksh just use the existing >utilties? > >Remember ksh has that in-process execution thing, where certain commands

Re: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-27 Thread Charles Wilson
Charles Wilson wrote: > I suggest that the ksh-specific binaries should just go into > /usr/bin/ksh/ or maybe /usr/libexec/ksh/ --Chuck

Re: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-27 Thread Charles Wilson
>> part shall change with minor updates, so I think "ksh93m+-1" would >> be the correct name for a standalone Cygwin ksh93 package. Is >> this OK with you? >> > > I think so but I'll let the collective wisdom of cygwin-apps decide. Sounds okay to me. >> I have to think about how to name

Re: How to create a ksh93 package...

2002-03-27 Thread Christopher Faylor
[redirecting to cygwin-apps since this is a package issue] On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 12:34:55AM +0100, Karsten Fleischer wrote: >Chris, > >I have successfully compiled ksh93 and almost all of the AT&T ast >libraries and tools on a vanilla Cygwin 1.3.10 system. >I am willing to create Cygwin setup co