Re: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-10-10 Thread D. Boland
Hi Yaakov, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: Corinna, Christian, Daniel, Pierre, Because MTAs must be user-configured, and we certainly don't want to lose the selection during package upgrades, the alternatives cannot be handled in package postinst/prerm. I think the only way to make this work is

Re: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-10-08 Thread Corinna Vinschen
Hi Yaakov, On Oct 6 17:19, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: Corinna, Christian, Daniel, Pierre, Because MTAs must be user-configured, and we certainly don't want to lose the selection during package upgrades, the alternatives cannot be handled in package postinst/prerm. I think the only way to

Re: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-10-08 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2014-10-08 07:52, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Oct 6 17:19, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: Because MTAs must be user-configured, and we certainly don't want to lose the selection during package upgrades, the alternatives cannot be handled in package postinst/prerm. I think the only way to make this

Re: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-10-08 Thread Christian Franke
Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: On 2014-10-08 07:52, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Oct 6 17:19, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: Because MTAs must be user-configured, and we certainly don't want to lose the selection during package upgrades, the alternatives cannot be handled in package postinst/prerm. I think

Re: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-10-08 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2014-10-08 11:32, Christian Franke wrote: The cron package is also affected. Its postinstall script sets a symlink /usr/sbin/sendmail - /usr/bin/cronlog if sendmail does not exist. This would break alternatives setting in MTA configure script because alternatives would never replace the

RE: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-10-08 Thread Pierre A. Humblet
-Original Message- From: Christian Franke Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 12:32 Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: On 2014-10-08 07:52, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Oct 6 17:19, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: Because MTAs must be user-configured, and we certainly don't want to lose the

Re: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-10-08 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2014-10-08 12:01, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: -Original Message- I was going to mention that and suggest to add another alternative in cron-config /usr/sbin/alternatives --install /usr/sbin/sendmail mta /usr/bin/cronlog 0 Except that cronlog isn't a real MTA. What I think should

RE: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-10-08 Thread Pierre A. Humblet
-Original Message- From: Yaakov Selkowitz Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 13:59 On 2014-10-08 12:01, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: -Original Message- I was going to mention that and suggest to add another alternative in cron-config /usr/sbin/alternatives --install

Re: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-10-07 Thread Christian Franke
Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: Corinna, Christian, Daniel, Pierre, Because MTAs must be user-configured, and we certainly don't want to lose the selection during package upgrades, the alternatives cannot be handled in package postinst/prerm. I think the only way to make this work is for each MTA

Re: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-10-07 Thread Christian Franke
Christian Franke wrote: Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: Corinna, Christian, Daniel, Pierre, Because MTAs must be user-configured, and we certainly don't want to lose the selection during package upgrades, the alternatives cannot be handled in package postinst/prerm. I think the only way to make

MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-10-06 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
Corinna, Christian, Daniel, Pierre, Because MTAs must be user-configured, and we certainly don't want to lose the selection during package upgrades, the alternatives cannot be handled in package postinst/prerm. I think the only way to make this work is for each MTA config script to handle

Re: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-09-08 Thread D. Boland
Hi Yaakov, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: Corinna, Christian, Daniel, Pierre, While I'm working out the details of allowing all your MTA packages to coexist, it would be helpful if you could clarify under what circumstances, if any, you expect that your MTA could function as /usr/sbin/sendmail

Re: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-08-29 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 28 18:25, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: Corinna, Christian, Daniel, Pierre, While I'm working out the details of allowing all your MTA packages to coexist, it would be helpful if you could clarify under what circumstances, if any, you expect that your MTA could function as

RE: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-08-29 Thread Pierre A. Humblet
-Original Message- From: Yaakov Selkowitz Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 19:25 Corinna, Christian, Daniel, Pierre, While I'm working out the details of allowing all your MTA packages to coexist, it would be helpful if you could clarify under what circumstances, if any, you

Re: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-08-29 Thread Christian Franke
Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: On 2014-08-28 18:25, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: Corinna, Christian, Daniel, Pierre, While I'm working out the details of allowing all your MTA packages to coexist, it would be helpful if you could clarify under what circumstances, if any, you expect that your MTA could

Re: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-08-29 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2014-08-29 13:45, Christian Franke wrote: Attached is a tar -t output of current draft postfix package (excluding the -doc and -debug packages). The conflicting names already have a .postfix extension. Was that automatic or of your own doing? Yaakov

Re: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-08-29 Thread Christian Franke
Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: On 2014-08-29 13:45, Christian Franke wrote: Attached is a tar -t output of current draft postfix package (excluding the -doc and -debug packages). The conflicting names already have a .postfix extension. Was that automatic or of your own doing? automatically done

MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-08-28 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
Corinna, Christian, Daniel, Pierre, While I'm working out the details of allowing all your MTA packages to coexist, it would be helpful if you could clarify under what circumstances, if any, you expect that your MTA could function as /usr/sbin/sendmail for the purposes of sending outgoing

Re: MTA packaging (exim, postfix, sendmail, ssmtp)

2014-08-28 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2014-08-28 18:25, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: Corinna, Christian, Daniel, Pierre, While I'm working out the details of allowing all your MTA packages to coexist, it would be helpful if you could clarify under what circumstances, if any, you expect that your MTA could function as