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Second: Read the extensive comments in startxwin.bat that tal
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of Harold L Hunt
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:27 AM
> To: willichnicht habichnet; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Bug in startxwin.bat after install
good service. Thank you :)
Harold
Bernard A Badger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> > Of Harold L Hunt
> > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:27 AM
> > To: willichnicht habichnet; [E
Harold L Hunt wrote:
> Okay, if you are so smart, explain to me how I can put a drive letter into a
> batch file that is expected to work on computers where Cygwin could be
> installed on ``c:\cygwin'' or ``d:\cygwin''? I certainly could not put ``c''
> as the drive, nor could I put ``d'' as the
Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Harold L Hunt wrote:
> > Okay, if you are so smart, explain to me how I can put a drive letter into a
> > batch file that is expected to work on computers where Cygwin could be
> > installed on ``c:\cygwin'' or ``d:\cygwin''? I certainly could not put ``c''
> >
Harold L Hunt wrote:
> Unfortunately you cannot use a relative path (e.g. ..\..\.., which gets \bin
> appended on it to point to /bin) because that causes bash (or whatever shell
> you launch in xterm) to have a relative path the Cygwin binaries. Thus you
> can no longer run Cygwin binaries if yo
registry, isn't it, so why not this?
You could then modify the startxwin.bat and startxwin.sh scripts such that
they don't attempt to assign CYGWIN_ROOT if it already has a value.
>From: Harold L Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Bug in start
Thomas Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I hate to jump into the middle of a religious argument (which this is
> turning out to be) but it seems to me that a plausible solution would be to
> urge the maintainers of the cygwin setup program to define a CYGWIN_ROOT
> environment variable for
Thomas Chadwick wrote:
> I hate to jump into the middle of a religious argument (which this is
> turning out to be) but it seems to me that a plausible solution would be
> to urge the maintainers of the cygwin setup program to define a
> CYGWIN_ROOT environment variable for us. Cygwin setup is
On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 05:17:47PM -0400, Harold L Hunt wrote:
>Oh great, you just took a religious war and told the heathens that they
>could fight too. :)
>
>I am inclined to let this issue work itself out without my involvement,
>other than to release a patched startxwin.bat if necessay.
Oh s
Harold L Hunt wrote:
> I am inclined to let this issue work itself out without my involvement, other
> than to release a patched startxwin.bat if necessay.
Hi harold,
Here is a script that will generate the startxwin.bat file. You might
want to verify that the batch file is like the original. I
I forgot to check if the batch file already existed or not. Attached is
the corrected script.
Jehan
#!/bin/sh
BATCH_FILE=/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat
if [ ! -f ${BATCH_FILE} ]; then
# First part of the batch file
cat << EOF > $BATCH_FILE
@echo
--- Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I forgot to check if the batch file already existed or not. Attached is
> the corrected script.
>
> Jehan
> > #!/bin/sh
>
> BATCH_FILE=/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat
>
> if [ ! -f ${BATCH_FILE} ]; then
>
>
> # Fir
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt
> Sent: Saturday, 13 July 2002 6:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Bug in startxwin.bat after installing with
> setup.exe in win98SE
>
>
>
Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> You still have the chicken-and-the egg issue. How is a user going to
> startxwin from a console window if /usr/X11R6/bin is not in their path?
Two things:
- For what I understood of the problem, Michael already found the batch
file but then, CYGWIN_ROOT was pointing to
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jehan
> Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 7:46 AM
...
> - Create a shortcut to the batch file in the start menu. That
> would be
> the best solution except that I don't know how to do it. Cygwin does
>
> I missed this the first time around.
>
> What you need is a small sed script in your postinstall script. The sed
> script can replace some symbol with the output from 'cygpath -w
> /usr/X11/'.
>
> As for linefeed issues, AFAIK windows will process bat files with unix
> format, but you coul
Robert Collins wrote:
>>- Create a shortcut to the batch file in the start menu. That
>>would be
>>the best solution except that I don't know how to do it. Cygwin does
>>something like that for cygwin.bat but IIRC it has the cygwin path
>>hardcoded to "C:\cygwin" even if you installed cygwin i
> -Original Message-
> From: Jehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 7:51 AM
> To: Robert Collins
> Subject: Re: Bug in startxwin.bat after installing with
> setup.exe in win98SE
>
>
> Robert Collins wrote:
> >>- Create a sho
Robert Collins wrote:
> Nope, it's also generated from mount information. Cygwin could be
> z:\bar\foo\bar and it would still be correct.
Is there a way then for a program to add (after asking the user) to
create a shortcut on the desktop/start menu? Is there also way to get
the information abo
> -Original Message-
> From: Jehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 8:18 AM
> To: Robert Collins
> Subject: Re: Bug in startxwin.bat after installing with
> setup.exe in win98SE
>
>
> Robert Collins wrote:
> > Nope, it's
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick
> I hate to jump into the middle of a religious argument (which this is
> turning out to be) but it seems to me that a plausible
> solution would be to
> urge the maintainers of
Robert Collins wrote:
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick
>
>
>>I hate to jump into the middle of a religious argument (which this is
>>turning out to be) but it seems to me that a plausible
>>solution would be to
Robert Collins wrote:
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 8:18 AM
>>To: Robert Collins
>>Subject: Re: Bug in startxwin.bat after installing with
>>setup.exe in win98SE
>>
>>
>
I forgot to attach the "X.ico" file. It's not the best in the world but
I guess it will do (it's the same I sent you with the systray patch a
while ago). It is to be installed in /usr/X11R6/bin (or you have to
modify the script)
Jehan
--- Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I forgot to attach the "X.ico" file. It's not the best in the world but
> I guess it will do (it's the same I sent you with the systray patch a
> while ago). It is to be installed in /usr/X11R6/bin (or you have to
> modify the script)
>
> Jeh
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nicholas Wourms
> Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 10:13 AM
> To: Jehan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Bug in startxwin.bat after installing with
> setup.exe in win98SE
>
&
Better hold off on that patch, Nicholas -- it's opposite of the
direction Robert wants to go. Setup should be , itself, as generic as
possible, and all actions driven by external data.
(granted, I haven't been reading this thread, so I might've missed
something...like discussion of the mkshor
--- Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nicholas Wourms
> > Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 10:13 AM
> > To: Jehan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
&
--- Charles Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Better hold off on that patch, Nicholas -- it's opposite of the
> direction Robert wants to go. Setup should be , itself, as generic as
> possible, and all actions driven by external data.
>
> (granted, I haven't been reading this thread, so I m
Nicholas Wourms wrote:
>Excuse me? All I was suggesting is to reword the final setup screen to
>something like the following:
>
>-Create Icon on Desktop for Cygwin Command Prompt
>-Create Icon on Desktop for Cygwin/XFree86
>-Add Icon to Start Menu for Cygwin Command Prompt
>-Add Icon to Start Me
Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> --- Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you search the archives, others have already made icons ready for you
> use :).
Well, I had this one for quite a while already.
> I wonder why not just can all the dos stuff by having the
> batch file call bash which then ca
> -Original Message-
> From: Nicholas Wourms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 10:24 AM
> > I mind. Setup should become -more- data driven not less.
> >
>
> Excuse me? All I was suggesting is to reword the final setup
> screen to
> something like the followin
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nicholas Wourms
> Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 10:29 AM
> Chuck,
>
> For crying out loud, 95% of the installers out there create
> shortcuts for
> the user in the startmenu and on the desktop. Why
--- Jehan Bing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nicholas Wourms wrote:
>
> >Excuse me? All I was suggesting is to reword the final setup screen to
> >something like the following:
> >
> >-Create Icon on Desktop for Cygwin Command Prompt
> >-Create Icon on Desktop for Cygwin/XFree86
> >-Add Icon to
> -Original Message-
> From: Nicholas Wourms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 10:57 AM
> To: Jehan Bing
...
> No he isn't. There are two ways that someone will interface
> with Cygwin,
> via Console or via X11. The other apps you mention are Console apps,
> the
--- Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> > --- Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > If you search the archives, others have already made icons ready for
> you
> > use :).
>
> Well, I had this one for quite a while already.
>
> > I wonder why not just can all the do
--- Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Nicholas Wourms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 10:24 AM
>
> > > I mind. Setup should become -more- data driven not less.
> > >
> >
> > Excuse me? All I was suggesting is t
--- Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Nicholas Wourms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 10:57 AM
> > To: Jehan Bing
> ...
> > No he isn't. There are two ways that someone will interface
> > with Cygwin,
> > via Cons
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nicholas Wourms
> Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 11:09 AM
> Robert,
>
> I'll have none of this debian talk. You know full well that
> I am working
> very hard to get rpm-4.1 ready for inclusion into
Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> --- Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Nicholas Wourms wrote:
>>
>>>--- Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>If you search the archives, others have already made icons ready for
>>
>>you
>>
>>>use :).
>>
>>Well, I had this one for quite a while already.
>>
>>
>>>I
> -Original Message-
> From: Nicholas Wourms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 11:19 AM
> To: Robert Collins; 'Jehan Bing'
> > The above is an argument for the creation of the shortcut, not for
> > setup.exe creating it.
> >
>
> Why should setup be more generic?
--- Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> > --- Jehan Bing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Excuse me? All I was suggesting is to reword the final setup screen
> to
> >>>something like the following:
> >>>
> >>>-Create Icon on Deskto
Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> Why should setup be more generic?
Because it's more flexible. We don't limit ourself to predefined
behavior. Right now, only cygwin create a shortcut. Soon (hopefully)
XWin will to. Tomorrow, SSH will want to. And rxvt. And csh...
We *have* a way to make shortcuts alr
--- Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nicholas Wourms
> > Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 11:09 AM
> > Robert,
> >
> > I'll have none of this debian talk. You know full well that
>
Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> Because scripts are unreliable. Because users are stupid. Because people
> like to have a GUI checkbox over a text console prompting them for input.
> You are admirable for defending your script, but the fact of the matter is
> that people prefer the graphical setup. W
--- Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> > --- Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> >>
> >>>--- Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>If you search the archives, others have already made icons ready for
> >>
> >>you
> >>
> >>>use :).
>
Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> --- Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nicholas Wourms
>>>Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 11:09 AM
>>>Robert,
>>>
>>>I'll have none of this debian talk. You know f
> -Original Message-
> From: Nicholas Wourms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 11:45 AM
> To: Robert Collins; 'Jehan'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hey, you were the one who brought up debian...
Actually, I brought up the technique dpkg uses to address the same
issue. But
Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> I dunno, maybe
> I'm wrong, but it just seems a bit silly to have two identical scripts for
> two different situations.
I agree with that.
> I'm of the camp that loves reusable code...
Yeah right, like modifying setup.exe for the XWin shortcut? ;)
Jehan
--- Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Nicholas Wourms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 11:45 AM
> > To: Robert Collins; 'Jehan'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > Hey, you were the one who brought up debian...
>
> Actually,
--- Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> > I dunno, maybe
> > I'm wrong, but it just seems a bit silly to have two identical scripts
> for
> > two different situations.
>
> I agree with that.
>
> > I'm of the camp that loves reusable code...
>
> Yeah right, like modify
> -Original Message-
> From: Nicholas Wourms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 12:15 PM
> > * Name to give the shortcut
> > * Location to place it (i.e. %DESKTOP% | %STARTMENU%/subpath | / (to
> > place in cygwin root dir))
> > * Target to point to (i.e. /usr/X11R
On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 07:44:51AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
>As for linefeed issues, AFAIK windows will process bat files with unix
>format, but you could always use d2u in your script.
I don't think Windows 9x systems will understand bat files with unix
line endings.
cgf
(boy what a strange
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 2:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Bug in startxwin.bat after installing with
> setup.exe in win98SE
>
>
&
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert Collins
> Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 4:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Bug in startxwin.bat after installing with
> setup.exe in win98SE
>
>
>
Wow.
I sure am glad that I was out of town, throwing a party, and replacing the
power steering pump in my Jeep this weekend while you guys slugged this one
out.
The end result is that I have a couple of scripts to look at and evaluate.
Right now I am still trying to get that scrollbars patch rel
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