Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread Csaba Raduly
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Olwe Melwasul wrote: So what exactly should I do with make-emacs-shortcut? Run it from the xterm: type its name into xterm and press Enter. -- Life is complex, with real and imaginary parts. Ok, it boots. Which means it must be bug-free and perfect. -- Linus

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread Ken Brown
On 7/16/2010 12:10 AM, Olwe Melwasul wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Ken Brownkbr...@cornell.edu wrote: I should have added that you should see /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/emacs.README for more information about that script and the shortcut it creates. Ken make-emacs-shortcut was in

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 15/07/2010 18:02, Olwe Melwasul wrote: I installed cygwin/xcygwin 1.7.5 with KDE. I don't know where you got KDE from, but it's not in the standard cygwin distribution. If you have problems with KDE, perhaps you should try the place you got it from. I tried clicking on XWin Server

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread Olwe Melwasul
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Jon TURNEY jon.tur...@dronecode.org.uk wrote: On 15/07/2010 18:02, Olwe Melwasul wrote: I installed cygwin/xcygwin 1.7.5 with KDE. I don't know where you got KDE from, but it's not in the standard cygwin distribution.  If you have problems with KDE, perhaps

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread Andy Koppe
On 16 July 2010 15:39, Olwe Melwasul wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: I installed cygwin/xcygwin 1.7.5 with KDE. I don't know where you got KDE from, but it's not in the standard cygwin distribution.  If you have problems with KDE, perhaps you should try the place

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
On 7/16/2010 10:39 AM, Olwe Melwasul wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: ^ http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR. Thanks. On 15/07/2010 18:02, Olwe Melwasul wrote: I installed cygwin/xcygwin 1.7.5 with KDE. I don't

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 04:39:58PM +0100, Andy Koppe wrote: On 16 July 2010 15:39, Olwe Melwasul wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: I installed cygwin/xcygwin 1.7.5 with KDE. I don't know where you got KDE from, but it's not in the standard cygwin distribution. ??If you

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread Olwe Melwasul
If you people simply want to flame me, fine. But everything I said is true: a) I had problems that no true Windows newbie could have solved from reading any amount of your documentation. b) this or that man page is NOT documentation. (Man pages will eventually be outlawed under the Geneva

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 03:03:07PM -0500, Olwe Melwasul wrote: If you people simply want to flame me, fine. But everything I said is true: 1) No one flamed you. Flaming is what you are doing now. 2) You are not a customer. You have no rights to anything here. The flow of obligation does not

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread Olwe Melwasul
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Christopher Faylor cgf-use-the-mailinglist-ple...@cygwin.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 03:03:07PM -0500, Olwe Melwasul wrote: If you people simply want to flame me, fine. But everything I said is true: 1) No one flamed you.  Flaming is what you are doing

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread DePriest, Jason R.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Olwe Melwasul wrote: I'd say offer tutorials and guides that include known issues. This is very common in other OS projects. Do some hand-holding on-line. Don't patronize people. And no, man pages are not suited for newbies as guides or tutorials. They're for

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread Olwe Melwasul
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 5:07 PM, DePriest, Jason R. jrdepri...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Olwe Melwasul wrote: I'd say offer tutorials and guides that include known issues. This is very common in other OS projects. Do some hand-holding on-line. Don't patronize people.

RE: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread Timares, Brian (EDS/HP)
Christopher Faylor On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 04:39:58PM +0100, Andy Koppe wrote: On 16 July 2010 15:39, Olwe Melwasul wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: [something] And my feelings would either be bolstered by people like Ken Brown who answered these initial questions

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 05:23:26PM -0500, Olwe Melwasul wrote: After my last email, I a) went down to the lake (Superior) and stuck my head underwater until the steam stopped bubbling up b) took some horse tranquilizers c) read the Wikipedia article on Mother Teresa I'm okay now. Yes, I'll do

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
I'll say it again. If you want to have a non-cygwin-xfree discussion use the cygwin-talk mailing list. That's what it is for. My response will be there. This thread is officially closed. No more responses please. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem

Resizing problem

2010-07-15 Thread Olwe Melwasul
I installed cygwin/xcygwin 1.7.5 with KDE. I tried clicking on XWin Server from the Start menue, but nothing happened. I tried startx from the cygwin basic terminal. Nothing. After some Google archaeology, I found someone that had done this: cd \cygwin\bin ash PATH=. rebaseall -v at the DOS

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-15 Thread Ken Brown
On 7/15/2010 1:02 PM, Olwe Melwasul wrote: [...] Actually, I don't need the startx version, I could very well use the startxwin multi-windows version IF I could get Emacs in shell mode to do cygwin bash. Starting the X server and then Emacs multi-windows style gets a shell mode that apparently

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-15 Thread Olwe Melwasul
Yes, I am using the emacs-X11 and yes, I started it (after starting the X server to get multiwindowed mode) with emacs at the cygwin command. Emacs-X11 comes up fine, looking good. Then I do M-x shell to get a shell environment inside of Emacs. But what comes up is not bash. I'm not sure what it

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-15 Thread Ken Brown
On 7/15/2010 3:51 PM, Olwe Melwasul wrote: Yes, I am using the emacs-X11 and yes, I started it (after starting the X server to get multiwindowed mode) with emacs at the cygwin command. Emacs-X11 comes up fine, looking good. Then I do M-x shell to get a shell environment inside of Emacs. But what

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-15 Thread Olwe Melwasul
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ken Brown kbr...@cornell.edu wrote: On 7/15/2010 3:51 PM, Olwe Melwasul wrote: Yes, I am using the emacs-X11 and yes, I started it (after starting the X server to get multiwindowed mode) with emacs at the cygwin command. Emacs-X11 comes up fine, looking good.

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-15 Thread Ken Brown
On 7/15/2010 9:26 PM, Olwe Melwasul wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ken Brownkbr...@cornell.edu wrote: On 7/15/2010 3:51 PM, Olwe Melwasul wrote: Yes, I am using the emacs-X11 and yes, I started it (after starting the X server to get multiwindowed mode) with emacs at the cygwin

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-15 Thread Ken Brown
On 7/15/2010 10:03 PM, Ken Brown wrote: On 7/15/2010 9:26 PM, Olwe Melwasul wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ken Brownkbr...@cornell.edu wrote: On 7/15/2010 3:51 PM, Olwe Melwasul wrote: Yes, I am using the emacs-X11 and yes, I started it (after starting the X server to get

Re: Resizing problem

2010-07-15 Thread Olwe Melwasul
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Ken Brown kbr...@cornell.edu wrote: I should have added that you should see /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/emacs.README for more information about that script and the shortcut it creates. Ken make-emacs-shortcut was in /bin. There was nothing in the .../README about