Re: security, cvs, was Re: interface bindings of x-server

2003-11-19 Thread Dave Dodge
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Keith Packard wrote: > Around 18 o'clock on Nov 19, Dave Dodge wrote: > > [I realize xauth, or changing permissions on the unix socket, could > > probably solve this as well. But the localhost method is really, > > really easy :-] > > When you say 'xhost +localhost' you're also

Re: security, cvs, was Re: interface bindings of x-server

2003-11-19 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Dave Dodge wrote: Why? What benefit does a TCP loopback connection provide over the Unix domain socket (which is generally faster on most OS'es)? Just a data point: I have lots of special-purpose accounts on my desktop system, for example when building package XYZ I might create a specific "xyz"

Re: security, cvs, was Re: interface bindings of x-server

2003-11-19 Thread Keith Packard
Around 18 o'clock on Nov 19, Dave Dodge wrote: > [I realize xauth, or changing permissions on the unix socket, could > probably solve this as well. But the localhost method is really, > really easy :-] When you say 'xhost +localhost' you're also granting permission for applications to connect t

Re: security, cvs, was Re: interface bindings of x-server

2003-11-19 Thread Dave Dodge
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > the only chance to get rid of it, is to use unix domain socket > > (via -nolisten tcp) OR to add the option, to specify the interface > > bindings and be able to bind it to local loopback ONLY. I`d prefer > > the second one

Re: security, cvs, was Re: interface bindings of x-server

2003-11-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi ! > > the only chance to get rid of it, is to use unix domain socket (via -nolisten tcp) > > OR to > > add the option, to specify the interface bindings and be able to bind it to local > > loopback > > ONLY. I`d prefer the second one. > > Why? What benefit does a TCP loopback connection pr

Re: security, cvs, was Re: interface bindings of x-server

2003-11-19 Thread Alan Coopersmith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the only chance to get rid of it, is to use unix domain socket (via -nolisten tcp) OR to add the option, to specify the interface bindings and be able to bind it to local loopback ONLY. I`d prefer the second one. Why? What benefit does a TCP loopback connection provide

Re: security, cvs, was Re: interface bindings of x-server

2003-11-19 Thread devzero
Hi! i`d like if discussion "unix domain socket vs. 127.0.0.1/TCP for local X connections" would be a complete separate discussion thread. could we separate this? ok, it seems my thread has alreade become somewhat a separate one (the "was" in the subject line) ;) MY intention with this threa

Re: security, cvs, was Re: interface bindings of x-server

2003-11-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 01:35:20AM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: > > Around 10 o'clock on Nov 19, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: > > > the only chance to get rid of it, is to use unix domain socket (via > > -nolisten tcp) > > That option should be the default; ssh refuses to listen on a unix > domain

Re: security, cvs, was Re: interface bindings of x-server

2003-11-19 Thread Keith Packard
Around 10 o'clock on Nov 19, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: > the only chance to get rid of it, is to use unix domain socket (via > -nolisten tcp) That option should be the default; ssh refuses to listen on a unix domain socket, but appears quite happy to connect to a unix domain socket. I don't

Re: security, cvs, was Re: interface bindings of x-server

2003-11-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: security, cvs, was Re: interface bindings of x-server

2003-11-19 Thread Keith Packard
Around 8 o'clock on Nov 19, Keith Whitwell wrote: > Is it foolhardy to continue running anoncvs, especially without the checks & > balances which caught the backdoor attempt in linux? The pserver running on fd.o has been specially hacked to run as 'nobody' from the very start, unlike most pser

Re: [Dri-devel] security, cvs, was Re: interface bindings of x-server

2003-11-19 Thread Mike Mestnik
ssh uses IP4:127.0.0.1, and as many times as ppl have asked for unix socket support it has allways been denied. -nolisten tcp is something for the distros to set up, it should be *usable by default. * Meaning all non-devel features on and nothing extra for the user to do. --- Keith Whitwell <[

security, cvs, was Re: interface bindings of x-server

2003-11-19 Thread Keith Whitwell
Keith Packard wrote: Around 2 o'clock on Nov 19, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: Keith, could you put this (being able to specify the interface bindings of the xserver on the commandline) as a feature request on http:// www.freedesktop.org/Software/XserverWishlist if you find this feature request usef