The World According to Choate

At 10:03 PM -0700 7/13/00, Kevin Elliott wrote: >At 21:32 -0500 7/13/00, Jim Choate wrote: >>On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Kevin Elliott wrote: >> >>> A corporation is an organization collectively owned by a group of >>> individuals, by the 14th, all powers denied to the federal government >>> are denie

Re: how EXACTLY does this protect privacy?

Gil Hamilton wrote: > >the rights of businesses are completely artificial. a biz is an > >artifical entity that doesn't have any existence aside from paperwork > >(the property it owns is "real", but that doesn't make the business any > >more real than the existence of churches proves the existenc

Re: Eudora spyware?

On 13 Jul 2000, negafoo wrote: > (apologies to the list for letting a crypted message out and Ugh! fix your mailer to wrap your posts! > I've noticed that Eudora 4.3 (in paid mode) has developed a habit of making an >internet conection on startup. If I allow the connection to succeed, some p

Re: Eudora spyware?

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Re: how EXACTLY does this protect privacy?

Tom Vogt writes: >Gil Hamilton wrote: > > The business is a representation of the owners, who are real people with > > actual rights. > >yes, but a representation is just that. as I said: the existence of >churches or icons does not prove the existence of god, and does not give >god the right to,

Re: how EXACTLY does this protect privacy?

Gil Hamilton wrote: > >I disagree. the legal system puts it this way, which is exactly what I'm > >saying above. it's just that this is an ARBITRARY solution to the > >problem, and any other would be just as "valid". > > You're not being clear. What "problem" is it that a business is "an > ARBIT

Re: how EXACTLY does this protect privacy?

Tom Vogt writes: >why am I discussing the point? because I think that most people are not >aware that our legal framework is this arbitrary. but if it is, that >means it can be changed. if we're not satisfied with the way that >corporations act anymore (regarding privacy, for example) we can chang

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e-gold

Sir Robert Hettinga wrote: > With supporting e-gold as a currency, or paypal or some other similar, > it is so obviously a good idea that if they don't do it immediately, > then they have their reasons to avoid these things. Wanting to do > money issuance RSN could be one of those reasons. The

RE: An idea to limit the spam ...

Anonymous writes: >Declan: > >You have no "right" to use another person's personal property -- their > >server -- as you see fit. If that mail server only approves messages > >with CP: in the Subject: line, or only with From: lines from > >left-handed lesbian Botswanans, that is the owner's choice

Re: e-gold (oops)

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Earthlink tells feds to f' off

Could it be the start of a trend? One can only hope... --PH === July 14, 2000 Tech Center EarthLink Says It Refuses to Install FBI's Carnivore Surveillance Device By NICK WINGFIELD, TED BRIDIS and NEIL KING JR. Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL One of the nation's larges

RE: An idea to limit the spam ...

At 11:19 AM -0700 on 7/14/00, Gil Hamilton wrote: > *government* (defined as men with > guns) Quibble: Men with guns who take money at gunpoint. :-). -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 US

Re: Mail list...

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Re: FBI listening in on Emails

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Re: White House to announce encryption policy change on Monday?

> I don't know the content of his remarks. But when folks start talking about > the need to protect public safety and update laws to reflect changing > technology, I'm not sure if I'm terribly optimistic. > > -Declan > Massively understated concern. Evil empire about to chew up an Amendment.

Re: An idea to limit the spam ... CPUNK

At 18:03 7/14/2000 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > > In any case, it is not interfering with your "right" to use their > > machine as you see fit, since you have no such right to begin with. > >And this has what to do with the concept of 'censorship' being a >'government' only action? We may be talkin

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Re: Mail list...

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Re: Cell Phone Crypto

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Re: Mail list...

On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Gimp Gimpson wrote: > I don't know what kind of control you have over what mail list software you > use, but if this was made a private list where you cannot post to the list > unless you are subscribed, and you had to reply to majordomo to confirm > subscription, wouldn't

Re: FBI listening in on Emails

On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, zombywuf wrote: > ECHLON! ECHLON! ECHLON! ECHLON! ECHLON! ECHLON! ECHLON! ECHLON! ECHLON! {pointless repetition snipped} I wonder if Echelon notices those stupid enough to not spell its name correctly. probably not. :) Not that I can talk. I've been misspelling piranha for a

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FBI listening in on Emails

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Mail list...

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Re: FBI listening in on Emails

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