Re: FBI Makes Case For Net Wiretaps

2000-07-26 Thread Bill Stewart
Tim May's quicker on the draw than I am :-) You know you've tweaked the FBI when they drag out child pornographers, terrorist bombers, hackers, and other usual suspects on a hearing that they didn't initiate and didn't want to be dragged into. To some extent, they always start speeches on

Re: FBI Makes Case For Net Wiretaps

2000-07-26 Thread Nancy Dillard
Anybody noticed that if crypt were outlawed, then Carnivore would have big teeth and that the FBI speech would make sense? Yours Truly, Gary Jeffers BEAT STATE!!!

Re: FBI on Carnivore: The horsemen ride!

2000-07-26 Thread Declan McCullagh
infocalypse. Here's an excerpt from the hearing transcript (why weren't drug smugglers mentioned? someone's slipping). I take that back. That scare story appears later on (keep reading)... -Declan KEVIN DIGREGORY, DEPUTY ASSOCIATE ATTORNEY GENERAL, DOJ As we have seen throughout history,

FBI on Carnivore: The horsemen ride!

2000-07-26 Thread Declan McCullagh
Someone, I think Bill, talked about the FBI's usual n-horsemen of the infocalypse. Here's an excerpt from the hearing transcript (why weren't drug smugglers mentioned? someone's slipping). Interestingly enough, except for a passing reference by one witness ("I support encryption"), that was

Don't expect the Reps to be any better

2000-07-26 Thread Tim May
At 8:57 AM -0500 7/26/00, Declan McCullagh wrote: When it comes to maintaining the size of government or giving more money to police, there is rarely gridlock. Look at the ever-increasing FBI budgets, for instance. If there were a terrorist attack that the FBI says could have been prevented by

Re: The word gullible is not in any dictionary

2000-07-26 Thread Tim May
At 9:18 PM -1000 7/25/00, Reese wrote: At 11:19 PM 25/07/00 -0700, Tim May wrote: Get a clue. You do know, don't you, Reeza, that neither "irony" nor "gullible" are in any English dictionary? And that subject line? What, am I supposed to provide a link from m-w.com now? Get a life.

FBI Listens to Carnivore Criticism

2000-07-26 Thread Tim May
WASHINGTON, D.C. (Routers) -- FBI Director Louis Freeh announced today that the Federal Bureau of Investigation takes the criticism of its wiretapping computer sniffer Carnivore "very seriously." In a hastily-called press conference, he acknowledged that the FBI had "underestimated the

Re: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony

2000-07-26 Thread Declan McCullagh
One industry's terrorism is another man's Napster. True, there's little hope of being able to challenge all these laws in court, and even if possible, the Supreme Court is not that likely to see things through cpunx lenses. (There's also a side issue of legitimizing groups that don't always

Re: carnivore conspiracy theory :)

2000-07-26 Thread Anonymous
all this...I refuse to believe the FBI has an IQ of 80. It was a problem for me, but I got over it. There is such a thing as "organisational IQ". Seemingly bright and sane folks will do extremely dumb things if immersed in departmental mentality long enough. Peer pressure, if you will.

Re: Re: CARNIVORE HEARINGS NOW ON C-SPAN 10:30PM PDT

2000-07-26 Thread Declan McCullagh
When it comes to maintaining the size of government or giving more money to police, there is rarely gridlock. Look at the ever-increasing FBI budgets, for instance. If there were a terrorist attack that the FBI says could have been prevented by Carnivore, I suspect you'll see what little

Re: FBI Makes Case For Net Wiretaps

2000-07-26 Thread Tim May
At 5:01 AM + 7/26/00, Anonymous wrote: By John Schwartz Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday , July 25, 2000 ; E01 Federal law enforcement officials defended "Carnivore"--the FBI's controversial Internet wiretap system--through more than two acrimonious hours of grilling by Democratic and

The word gullible is not in any dictionary

2000-07-26 Thread Tim May
At 8:08 PM -1000 7/25/00, Reese wrote: At 12:15 AM 25/07/00 -0700, Tim May wrote: In my view, what I heard did far more bad than good. Witnesses were babbling about the need to see what the Carnivore system did, so that the rights of the unpersecuted whom the warrants did not apply to could be

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Random musings

2000-07-26 Thread Sandy Harris
The Linux /dev/random driver (and its *BSD cousins) come up for discussion periodically on various lists. Some old discussions are archived at: http://www.openpgp.net/random/ Alternate designs also get discussed, mainly Counterpane's Yarrow: http://www.counterpane.com/yarrow.html I'm thinking

Re: Random musings

2000-07-26 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Well, there are basically two schools of thought on the random number design. Or perhaps it's fairer to say that we can identify two extremes along a continuum of RNG design. One extreme is to put a lot of faith in the crypto; Yarrow, with its relatively small entropy pool and reliance on the

Another take on Carnivore - stalking horse for CALEA for Internet ?

2000-07-26 Thread Dave Emery
As a simple minded observer far removed from inside DC politics, I can't help wonder if the real purpose of disclosing the existance of Carnivore was not based on the nieve assumption that Congress and public would gladly accept such a trunk wiretap device as necessary and proper, but

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