Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-22 Thread Nathan Saper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 10:59:51PM -0700, petro wrote: > > >> That's true, but it is irrelevant. As long as insurance companies > >> and hospitals are privately owned, putting a requirement like this > >> one on them constitutes theft of their re

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-22 Thread Tim May
At 10:35 PM -0700 10/22/00, Nathan Saper wrote: > >This is true in theory. However, from what I have read, it appears >that the care given to these people is far from the quality of care >given to those who can pay. Also, many diseases require very >expensive treatments, and I do not believe the

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-22 Thread jim bell
- Original Message - From: petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The point is that you are *forcing* me to part with my > productive labor to support someone else. > > This makes me unhappy. Under your beliefs, you can't do this, > as I have a right to be happy. If this were an episode on the ori

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-22 Thread petro
> > Of course, in the libertarian ideal universe someone not >completely indigent who had a genetic condition that made them high risk >might still be unable to get any kind of catastropic medical insurance >and might be wiped out of virtually all assets by a serious illness, >even one comp

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-22 Thread petro
>> That's true, but it is irrelevant. As long as insurance companies >> and hospitals are privately owned, putting a requirement like this >> one on them constitutes theft of their resources. If you want to >> have them engaging in charity, set up a charity and solicit money >> instead. i

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Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-22 Thread Nathan Saper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:59:08AM -0400, Me wrote: > From: "Nathan Saper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > However, I think most people would be willing to vote for a > bill that > > would guarantee insurance for people with genetic > abnormalities, even > >

Re: Privacy Debate at the Commonwealth Club in SF (fwd)

2000-10-22 Thread Tim May
At 6:20 AM +0200 10/23/00, Nomen Nescio wrote: >[Fwd] > >For anyone in the SF Bay Area who is even mildly interested in the privacy >discussion, I highly recommend that you attend a public affairs-style >discussion on Internet privacy to be held at The Commonwealth Club on >Thursday, October 26, f

Privacy Debate at the Commonwealth Club in SF (fwd)

2000-10-22 Thread Nomen Nescio
[Fwd] For anyone in the SF Bay Area who is even mildly interested in the privacy discussion, I highly recommend that you attend a public affairs-style discussion on Internet privacy to be held at The Commonwealth Club on Thursday, October 26, from 5:15 -- 7:15pm. The discussion will be moderated

Re: Risk and insurance

2000-10-22 Thread Tim May
At 2:44 PM -0700 10/22/00, Greg Broiles wrote: >At 12:33 AM 10/22/00 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote: >>On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Nathan Saper wrote: >> So these people are entitled to something for nothing? (or in this case, $1500 of treatment for $1000 of premiums)? >>> >>>That's the whole ide

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-22 Thread Nathan Saper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 08:12:45PM -0700, James A.. Donald wrote: > At 07:09 PM 10/22/2000 -0700, Nathan Saper wrote: > > I think the government has a right to do whatever it needs to do to > > maintain the health and well-being of its population.

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-22 Thread Bill Stewart
At 08:12 PM 10/22/00 -0700, James A.. Donald wrote: > -- >At 07:09 PM 10/22/2000 -0700, Nathan Saper wrote: > > I think the government has a right to do whatever it needs to do to > > maintain the health and well-being of its population. That is the > > purpose of the government. > >Then the

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Re: why should it be trusted? (insurance)

2000-10-22 Thread A. Melon
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Risk and insurance

2000-10-22 Thread Greg Broiles
At 12:33 AM 10/22/00 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote: >On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Nathan Saper wrote: > > >> So these people are entitled to something for nothing? > >> (or in this case, $1500 of treatment for $1000 of premiums)? > > > >That's the whole idea of insurance, isn't it? > > > >You're trolling, ar

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-22 Thread Nathan Saper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 12:33:39AM -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Nathan Saper wrote: > > >> So these people are entitled to something for nothing? > >> (or in this case, $1500 of treatment for $1000 of premiums)? > > > >Tha

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Re: Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-22 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Nathan Saper wrote: >The point is, it's not fair to punish someone for a genetic defect >that isn't his or her fault. What has fairness got to do with it? People are born with genetic defects; it's manifestly unfair, but it's true. Insurers are in business to make mo

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-22 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Nathan Saper wrote: >> So these people are entitled to something for nothing? >> (or in this case, $1500 of treatment for $1000 of premiums)? > >That's the whole idea of insurance, isn't it? > You're trolling, aren't you? Insurance is a good idea for the insured because