At 16:22 + 7/21/00, Gil Hamilton wrote:
>When Japan comes to the FBI asking them to please get that site
>containing the names taken down, the appropriate response from the
>FBI is "I'm sorry about the embarrassment this must be causing you,
>but Mr. Young does not appear to be breaking any
Title: RE: FBI Requests File Removal
You make some good points. After giving it more
thought, I think that the agents should be reported to their superiors and that
John should explain to them that he takes their "threat" seriously and that he
is doing just what he has done, making
>The FBI did not seek a court order, which is the legal way to
>(sometimes) quash speech. Rather, it applied extra-legal pressures.
I happen to come from an euro country where authorities worked
solely by FUDding, Kafka-style. That is the strongest mode of reign
available.
It appears that civil
Special Agent James Castano said the call he made to me
was his first for matter like that. He was friendly, open, answered
all my questions the best he could, and asked others if he didn't
know. We chatted about the DeCSS trial here in NY. His unit he
said deals with computer crime, IP violation
At 4:22 PM + 7/21/00, Gil Hamilton wrote:
>Tom Roach writes:
>>First, we know about Carnivore, or think we do. What earthly good is it
>>to put the agent's names in the public domain? Unless you planned to do
>>something cruel, evil or harmful to people "doing their job" it would
>>serve no us
n. In this case, however, John is not
>threatening the agents with shotguns. Yet the agents did
>more than just gently advise John.
>
>There is a real difference when the attitude is bad.
>
>Ern
>
>-Original Message-
>From: T. Bankson Roach
>[<mailto:[EM
Tom Roach writes:
>First, we know about Carnivore, or think we do. What earthly good is it
>to put the agent's names in the public domain? Unless you planned to do
>something cruel, evil or harmful to people "doing their job" it would
>serve no useful purpose.
I disagree. What part of "doing the
>What earthly good is it
>to put the agent's names in the public domain? Unless you planned to do
>something cruel, evil or harmful to people "doing their job" it would
>serve no useful purpose.
I don't consider anyone working for the U.S. government in a capacity to take
away Constitutionally-p
Title: RE: FBI Requests File Removal
Hmmm ... I will have to totally (but respectfully) disagree.
The underlings are not necessarily just delivering a friendly
reminder in this case.
Threats are generally considered not just in poor taste, but
real criminal offenses, when it comes from
> Dave Marzigliano & James Castano
This is what Internet was all about. Authugrities cannot beat lone
individuals into submission that easy any more.
And it becomes crystal clear why, in few short years, one will
need a state license for web publishing.
Off to start collecting donations for JYA
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
July 20, 2000
Federal Bureau of Investigation
NCCS, New York
C37
Dear FBI,
This confirms my telephone remarks today that I decline
your request to remove the list of members of Japan's
Public Security Investigation Agency posted on Cryptome:
http://cryptome.org/psia-l
11 matches
Mail list logo
