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Adam Back wrote:
I think the thing that killed MT / digicash for this application
was MT at the time was reported to be closing accounts related
to pornography -- they apparently didn't want the reputation for
providing payment mechanisms for the porn industry or
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James A. Donald:
There have been many attempts at ecash, but I am not aware of any
products involving useful, spendable, convenient, anonymous ecash
targeted at that or similar markets [immoral or illegal]. The
only really usable anonymous ecash was that of the Mark Twain
James wrote:
Adam Back wrote:
Hal says:
http://www.finney.org/~hal/chcash1.html and
http://www.finney.org/~hal/chcash2.html
Wow look at the dates on those files -- Oct 93, and we still no
deployed ecash. You'd think there would be a market there for porn
sites alone
Apologies for indirect routing :-)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:41:07 -0500
From: Adam Back [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unfortunately both Brands' and Chaum's ecash and credential schemes
are patented. David Wagner et al also had some ideas about an ecash
coin [3] composed
[Hey Hal, what happened to your Chaum's ecash description? Can't find
it to link to].
Anonymous wrote:
Ray wrote:
Even if she provides enough
tokens to completely populate the cut-and-choose protocol,
those tokens still have to have splits of valid identification
information for
On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, A. Melon wrote:
Newby puzzles:
Right, I agree.
But what I'd like to consider is a recipe for "plain ordinary"
folk to conspire anonymously to commit murder.
Did you even bother to read AP? RTFM, dude!
Speaking as someone who has very recently read AP, the
At 7:16 PM -0800 11/27/00, Ray Dillinger wrote:
Since this time I was trying to distill a formal protocol
specification, I was a lot more critical about fine points.
Bell handwaved on the point of obtaining digital cash for
paying the assassin with. Bob the broker can go to the
There's often
At 01:06 11/28/2000 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Hmmm...
Maybe it was Toto's ersatz-AP web page I was remembering, now that I think
about it, which, of course, Toto *didn't* plead to...
Ah, I think you're right. I don't remember a whole lot of substance backing
that allegation (it didn't
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Maybe it was Toto's ersatz-AP web page I was remembering, now that I think
about it, which, of course, Toto *didn't* plead to...
But the prosecutors did not quite get the joke. It was quite obvious that
the site was rigged to a small and preselected
petro wrote:
Oh come now. You have real recourse against Bill Gates and John Tesh
Bill Gates is a questionable case, but there is no doubt that
John Tesh should die.
if everyone who hates windos puts $10 in a box, you'd need quite a large
box. which makes one wonder why the guy
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Tom Vogt wrote:
would most likely cast a couple new protection laws. say, make it
illegal to publish a politician's name. "our president has today..."
Well, I guess that's *one* way to get political types to support
the right to anonymity...
Eric Cordian wrote:
Alan Olsen wrote:
[...snip...]
He seemed to think that the only target of this would be the government.
I think this is a reasonable observation. You really have to be acting
under color of authority to strongly alienate enough people, who have so
litle recourse
Anyway, the distinction between business and politics is less clear than
you make out - or seems less clear to many people in countries outside
America. In most places the government is in the pockets of the people
with the money - and in most places presidents and governors are quick
This is a
Alan Olsen wrote:
I disagree. I don't believe Jim really was willing to consider
the social implications of his scheme.
The implications are that in a society where the government has not made
personal privacy and private communication illegal, you can't be an
asshole to countless millions
Oh come now. You have real recourse against Bill Gates and John Tesh
Bill Gates is a questionable case, but there is no doubt that
John Tesh should die.
It is extremely unlikely it is going to change in the least the "who" or
"why" of contract killing. I really don't think everyone
BTW I tried to get a copy of Bell's case file (including the search
warrant affidavit that Jeff Gordon co would have had to swear out)
but as of midweek it was still sealed.
-Declan
Declan;
Why haven't you found out yet what happened to Jim Bell? Certainly you
could ask questions of Portland PD, whatever, or his mom, find out what
they've done with him.
This is certainly a newsworthy item. Squelching free speech by terrorizing
dissedents is what it's all about.
At 8:50 AM -0800 11/9/00, A. Melon wrote:
Declan;
Why haven't you found out yet what happened to Jim Bell? Certainly you
could ask questions of Portland PD, whatever, or his mom, find out what
they've done with him.
This is certainly a newsworthy item. Squelching free speech
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From: "jim bell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Darcy Bender" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: So, what's happening?
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:49:04 -0700
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A quick and ugly digital photo:
http://www.mccullagh.org/image/950-8/jim-bell-dinner.html
It looks like he ate well in prison.
--PH
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My name is Robert Sterling, and I am the editor of The Konformist online
magazine. Over 2 years ago, I was in conversations via email with Jim Bell,
and at that time, he gave me permission to distribute without profit copies
of his magnum opus Assassination Politics.
I have been informed
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,35620,00.html
Crypto-Convict Won't Recant
by Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
3:00 a.m. Apr. 14, 2000 PDT
Before Jim Bell went to prison, he suspected that most government
officials were corrupt. Three years behind bars later
Now how in hell can it be determined if Jim is wolfing
for the feds to bring in the lambs?
What the hell has he been fabricating for Jessica Stern
and Declan, and whose names are they taking to report
on and testify against next, quoting Jim's amazingly
selective memory?
What the hell is this
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