Giving the Devil the Benefit of Law (was: RE: Jim Bell arrested documents online)

2000-11-27 Thread Trei, Peter
I really find AP depressing. I find the arguments that it would only be used against 'those that needed killing' faulty, in that everyone has a different list. There are a lot of folk who would put crypto anarchists on their list (as well as, say, Major League Baseball umpires :-). "Law", and 'l

Re: Jim Bell arrested, documents online

2000-11-25 Thread Bill Stewart
At 10:14 AM 11/24/00 -0800, Ray Dillinger wrote: > > >On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Tom Vogt wrote: > > >>would most likely cast a couple new protection laws. say, make it >>illegal to publish a politician's name. "our president has today..." > > >Well, I guess that's *one* way to get political types to su

Re: Jim Bell arrested, documents online

2000-11-24 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Greg Newby wrote: > >Do people on this list really believe that the solution to >problems is to kill people? > >Or are we just getting sarcastic and frustrated? There are certain problems that no other solution for has ever been found. There has never been a human soci

Re: Jim Bell arrested, documents online

2000-11-24 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Tom Vogt wrote: >would most likely cast a couple new protection laws. say, make it >illegal to publish a politician's name. "our president has today..." Well, I guess that's *one* way to get political types to support the right to anonymity...

Re: Jim Bell arrested, documents online

2000-11-24 Thread Tom Vogt
petro wrote: > > >Oh come now. You have real recourse against Bill Gates and John Tesh > > Bill Gates is a questionable case, but there is no doubt that > John Tesh should die. if everyone who hates windos puts $10 in a box, you'd need quite a large box. which makes one wonder why the

Re: Jim Bell arrested documents online

2000-11-23 Thread Anonymous
>Anyway, the distinction between business and politics is less clear than >you make out - or seems less clear to many people in countries outside >America. In most places the government is in the pockets of the people >with the money - and in most places presidents and governors are quick This is

Re: Jim Bell arrested, documents online

2000-11-23 Thread Ken Brown
Eric Cordian wrote: > Alan Olsen wrote: [...snip...] > > He seemed to think that the only target of this would be the government. > > I think this is a reasonable observation. You really have to be acting > under color of authority to strongly alienate enough people, who have so > litle recour

Re: Jim Bell arrested, documents online

2000-11-22 Thread petro
>Oh come now. You have real recourse against Bill Gates and John Tesh Bill Gates is a questionable case, but there is no doubt that John Tesh should die. >It is extremely unlikely it is going to change in the least the "who" or >"why" of contract killing. I really don't think everyon

Re: Jim Bell arrested, documents online

2000-11-22 Thread Me
- Original Message - From: "Duncan Frissell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I hope James will argue that he was gathering addresses so > that he could picket them (which is legal). Hasn't Jim Bell, master chemist, keeper of paper notes, and self appointed angel of death to LEOs ever heard of a con

Re: Jim Bell arrested, documents online

2000-11-22 Thread Eric Cordian
Alan Olsen wrote: > I disagree. I don't believe Jim really was willing to consider > the social implications of his scheme. The implications are that in a society where the government has not made personal privacy and private communication illegal, you can't be an asshole to countless millions