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At 2:06 PM -0800 on 12/10/00, petro wrote: > RAH whinged ...and in error. My apologies. Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its use

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Petro wrote: > > R. A. Hettinga wrote: [...] > >As I've written, the FBI should run quality house cleaning services > >in large cities. > > How do you know they don't? In every office or factory I've ever been in, including government ones where we kept paper copies of tax returns (yes

Re: IBM Uses Keystroke-monitoring in NJ Mob Case (was Re: BNA'sInternet Law News (ILN) - 12/5/00)

Mr. May: >Frankly, the PGP community veered off the track toward crapola about >standards, escrow, etc., instead of concentrating on the core >issues. PGP as text is a solved problem. The rest of the story is to >ensure that pass phrases and keys are not black-bagged. > >Forget fancy GUIs, forg

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>At 05:31 PM 12/5/00 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: >> >>An instructive case. Apparently they used the keystroke monitoring >>to obtain the pgp passphrase, which was then used to decrypt the files. > >A PDA would have been harder to hack, one imagines. > >Are there padlockable metal cases for PDAs?

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>From reading the docs at EPIC, it is not clear that the FBI actually got data from the planted device. The USA application dated June 8 asks for a supplemental order of extension of time in order to break in and remove the device. This need was caused by Scarfo's unexpected removal of the equip

Re: IBM Uses Keystroke-monitoring in NJ Mob Case (was Re:BNA'sInternet Law News (ILN) - 12/5/00)

At 9:56 PM -0800 on 12/5/00, Greg Broiles wrote: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 05:16:03PM -0800, Tim May wrote: >> >The legal fight over whether the monitor was legal and whether the >> >information so obtained are in fact records of criminal activity is a >> >side-show. It remains practical eviden

Re: IBM Uses Keystroke-monitoring in NJ Mob Case (was Re: BNA'sInternet Law News (ILN) - 12/5/00)

On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 05:16:03PM -0800, Tim May wrote: > >The legal fight over whether the monitor was legal and whether the > >information so obtained are in fact records of criminal activity is a > >side-show. It remains practical evidence of how insecure computer > >equipment / OS's and pass

Re: IBM Uses Keystroke-monitoring in NJ Mob Case (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 12/5/00)

On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 09:04:03AM -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: > > KEYSTROKE MONITORING AND THE SOPRANOS > > A federal gambling case against the son of a New Jersey mob > > boss may provide the courts with the opportunity to weigh in A copy of the indictment is here: http://www.cluebot.com/artic

Re: IBM Uses Keystroke-monitoring in NJ Mob Case (was Re: BNA'sInternet Law News (ILN) - 12/5/00)

(dcsb and cryptography and other closed lists removed, for obvious reasons) At 4:52 PM -0500 12/5/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote: > >Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 08:47:20 -0800 >From: Somebody >To: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: IBM Uses Keystroke-mo

Re: IBM Uses Keystroke-monitoring in NJ Mob Case (was Re: BNA'sInternet Law News (ILN) - 12/5/00)

At 2:37 PM -0500 on 12/5/00, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > Very interesting, but what does IBM have to do with the case? Did you > mean to type "FBI"? Absolutely. God knows why I did it... Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation

Re: IBM Uses Keystroke-monitoring in NJ Mob Case (was Re:BNA'sInternet Law News (ILN) - 12/5/00)

--- begin forwarded text Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 08:47:20 -0800 From: Somebody To: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: IBM Uses Keystroke-monitoring in NJ Mob Case (was Re: BNA'sInternet Law News (ILN) - 12/5/00) An instructive case. Apparently th

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On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 04:12:37PM -0500, David Lesher wrote: > > re: the keystroke sniffer: > > http://inq.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/12/04/front_page/JMOB04.htm > > The FBI application is at: > http://www.epic.org/crypto/breakin/application.pdf > > The court order is at: > ht

Keystroke-monitoring in NJ Mob Case

re: the keystroke sniffer: http://inq.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/12/04/front_page/JMOB04.htm The FBI application is at: http://www.epic.org/crypto/breakin/application.pdf The court order is at: http://www.epic.org/crypto/breakin/order.pdf -- A host is a host from coast to [