Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-19 Thread staticsafe
On 10/19/2013 19:41, grarpamp wrote: http://help.cs.umn.edu/email/procmail http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop/ http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop/documentation.html http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop/maildroptips.html http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/maildrop.html#_filtering_duplicat

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-19 Thread grarpamp
> http://help.cs.umn.edu/email/procmail http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop/ http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop/documentation.html http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop/maildroptips.html http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/maildrop.html#_filtering_duplicate_messages

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-19 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013, brian carroll wrote: > Al Billings wrote: > > > Who cares? That's a lot of words about a non-issue. > > i am like a robot. i do not understand. Trust me: we all get that. > i need the situation explained > step by step so i can do whatever is needed > in those paramet

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-19 Thread Nathan Loofbourrow
For a second there I thought this was a sestina. On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:29 PM, brian carroll wrote: > Al Billings wrote: > > > Who cares? That's a lot of words about a non-issue. > > i am like a robot. i do not understand. > i need the situation explained > step by step so i can do whateve

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-19 Thread brian carroll
first the sleeper hold... then the piledriver now the C A G E M A T C H ! ! !

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-19 Thread John Young
Wait, numbbutt whiners, there is gold in those duplicates, triplicates. Eugen's multiple posts are not identical. Best save them all for the quite valuable and revealing metadata which differs for each. That metadata's value usually exceeds the stupid bitchings rancid and senseless as oh so witty

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-19 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:40:19PM +0200, Mob wrote: > Also, if you don't want to miss anything, you are probably > subscribing to the cypherpunks, cryptography@randombits, > cryptography@metzdowd and cryptopolitics (low volume at the moment) > lists, often receiving a hundred postings every day,

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-19 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 02:24:16PM +0200, Moon Jones wrote: > On 18.10.2013 23:40, Mob wrote: > >hundred postings every day, or more. Including doubles and triples > >reposted by Eugene Leitl. > > Set a filter. I already have a dozen Brian Carroll and another dozen > of Eugene Leitl on it. It gets

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-19 Thread Moon Jones
On 18.10.2013 23:40, Mob wrote: hundred postings every day, or more. Including doubles and triples reposted by Eugene Leitl. Set a filter. I already have a dozen Brian Carroll and another dozen of Eugene Leitl on it. It gets deleted right away. If only people would notice people going this w

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-19 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:10 PM, brian carroll wrote: > from one platform into Gmail, where formatting errors and > line wrap issues exist, thus unreliable rendering of emails. Gmail's support for those things is poor at best. > since the list does not send me a copy of my own posts, Gmail

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-19 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Mob wrote: > Also, if you don't want to miss anything, you are probably subscribing to > the cypherpunks, cryptography@randombits, cryptography@metzdowd and > cryptopolitics (low volume at the moment) lists, often receiving a hundred > postings every day, or more.

Re: HTML List Abuse

2013-10-18 Thread d.nix
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > i am like a robot. i do not understand. i need the situation > explained step by step so i can do whatever is needed in those > parameters to improve the interaction > All I've ever seen is plain text. I use Thunderbird and I keep "view message

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-18 Thread brian carroll
Al Billings wrote: > Who cares? That's a lot of words about a non-issue. i am like a robot. i do not understand. i need the situation explained step by step so i can do whatever is needed in those parameters to improve the interaction else i could just say fuck it though it is a valid poin

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-18 Thread Al Billings
Who cares? That's a lot of words about a non-issue. — http://makehacklearn.org On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM, brian carroll wrote: > i somewhat understand the situation thanks to feedback... > the problems here involve a broken pc and porting texts > from one platform into Gmail, where for

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-18 Thread brian carroll
i somewhat understand the situation thanks to feedback... the problems here involve a broken pc and porting texts from one platform into Gmail, where formatting errors and line wrap issues exist, thus unreliable rendering of emails. since the list does not send me a copy of my own posts, the

Re: HTML List Abuse

2013-10-18 Thread dan
> Sounds like you need a better and more efficient system for consuming > information, friend. I recommend twitter. Are you saying that brevity is the soul of Twit?

Re: HTML List Abuse

2013-10-18 Thread David
On 10/17/13 10:27 PM, Kelly John Rose wrote: Almost feel like I'm back on usenet. Bring back the Line-eater Food!

Re: HTML List Abuse

2013-10-18 Thread Al Billings
On 10/18/13 2:40 PM, Mob wrote: > Also, if you don't want to miss anything, you are probably subscribing > to the cypherpunks, cryptography@randombits, cryptography@metzdowd and > cryptopolitics (low volume at the moment) lists, often receiving a > hundred postings every day, or more. Including dou

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-18 Thread Mob
Al Billings wrote 2013-10-18 03:57: Cypherpunks: where old net fogies argue about top posting and HTML in email. How 1998. There is a way of keeping informed that is disturbed by HTML (and sometimes by top posting). Firstly, HTML-forums with threads are out of the question because it tak

Re: HTML List Abuse

2013-10-18 Thread J.A. Terranson
> > Almost feel like I'm back on usenet. > > You are: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.security.cypherpunks Break out the cancelmoose... //Alif -- Those who make peaceful change impossible, make violent revolution inevitable. An American Spring is coming: one way or another.

Re: HTML List Abuse

2013-10-18 Thread Joseph Holsten
On 2013-10-18, at 02:27, Kelly John Rose wrote: > Almost feel like I'm back on usenet. You are: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.security.cypherpunks -- ~j signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-18 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:47:08PM -0500, brian carroll wrote: > >> so you're saying the person is reading this >> on a two-line 80s electronic pager then? > > You can assume that people who care know this, so > text-only correlates with old

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-18 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:47:08PM -0500, brian carroll wrote: > so you're saying the person is reading this > on a two-line 80s electronic pager then? Many people concerned with security use text-only MUAs, as that works well over low-bandwidth mobile links and gives less attack surface agains

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-17 Thread brian carroll
so you're saying the person is reading this on a two-line 80s electronic pager then? Actually, it's gmail that is doing that. People using pure-text > interfaces are posting only 7-bit ASCII. >

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-17 Thread coderman
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:43 PM, brian carroll wrote: > ... > i just do not understand how [HTML mail] makes people so upset in > terms of the content, > ... > please filter me out of your email stream, problem solved. > then you could stop your recursive bitching and moaning. next time implore

Re: HTML List Abuse

2013-10-17 Thread Kelly John Rose
Almost feel like I'm back on usenet. On 17/10/2013 9:57 PM, Al Billings wrote: > Cypherpunks: where old net fogies argue about top posting and HTML in email. > > > > > How 1998. > -- Kelly John Rose Mississauga, ON Phone: +1 647 638-4104 Twitter: @kjrose Document contents are confidential

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-17 Thread Griffin Boyce
On 10/17/2013 09:57 PM, Al Billings wrote: > Cypherpunks: where old net fogies argue about top posting and HTML in > email. > > How 1998. So did you miss LibTech's 100+ post discussion about footer placement, or have you repressed it? ;-)

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-17 Thread Al Billings
Cypherpunks: where old net fogies argue about top posting and HTML in email. How 1998.

Re: HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-17 Thread brian carroll
hello. as far as i know, this is not HTML, it is a unicode message. the way it goes through- the list software attaches an HTML file after every post, though there is no text formatting of any kind, other than recognized unicode characters that remain in the text that last post was because some m

HTML List Abuse (was: "please ignore: this is only a test")

2013-10-17 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013, brian carroll wrote: If you *must* support HTML on SMTP, at least have the courtesy to do your testing locally, rather than globally. I am sending this globally, rather than locally, because with the influx of new CP'ers about town, I have zero doubt that this will be a