Re: Fwd: [Cryptography] "Flip Feng Shui: Hammering a Needle in the Software Stack"

2016-09-01 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 11:21:18PM -0700, Riad S. Wahby wrote: > Georgi Guninski wrote: > > Does Rowhammer work in clouds? According to the popular story it > > affected only laptops. > > The answer is "it depends." > Thanks. Just browsed through the paper, it mentions m$ azure. Is/has been some

Re: [WAR] If Hillary Becomes USA President, Will We Have a Nuclear War?

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Even more: ** Leaked Clinton Emails Show Plans to Destroy Russia (http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413cb3652f&id=50515b276c&e=5110f4b440) by Eric Zuesse on Thu, Sep 1, 2016 Leaked emails are filling

Re: Fwd: [Cryptography] "Flip Feng Shui: Hammering a Needle in the Software Stack"

2016-09-01 Thread Mirimir
On 09/02/2016 12:21 AM, Riad S. Wahby wrote: > Georgi Guninski wrote: >> Does Rowhammer work in clouds? According to the popular story it >> affected only laptops. > > The answer is "it depends." > > Machines with ECC RAM make successful rowhammer attacks considerably > harder, and meanwhile mos

Re: Fwd: [Cryptography] "Flip Feng Shui: Hammering a Needle in the Software Stack"

2016-09-01 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Georgi Guninski wrote: > Does Rowhammer work in clouds? According to the popular story it > affected only laptops. The answer is "it depends." Machines with ECC RAM make successful rowhammer attacks considerably harder, and meanwhile most cloud providers use ECC (e.g., Amazon uses ECC on all mac

Fwd: [Cryptography] "Flip Feng Shui: Hammering a Needle in the Software Stack"

2016-09-01 Thread Georgi Guninski
- Forwarded message from Jerry Leichter - Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 11:33:16 -0400 From: Jerry Leichter To: Cryptography List Subject: [Cryptography] "Flip Feng Shui: Hammering a Needle in the Software Stack" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) "We introduce Flip Feng Shui (FFS), a new exploita

Re: [ultra ULTRA private] [for your eyes only] capitalism, socialism, anarchism, self-regulation

2016-09-01 Thread Mirimir
On 09/01/2016 08:34 PM, Razer wrote: > > > On 09/01/2016 07:27 PM, juan wrote: >> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 18:52:55 -0700 >> Razer wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 09/01/2016 06:24 PM, juan wanted me to do something for him: >>> > *find out how many US government agents like me know that spanish > wor

Dark Patterns

2016-09-01 Thread grarpamp
http://darkpatterns.org/ A Dark Pattern is a user interface that has been carefully crafted to trick users into doing things, such as buying insurance with their purchase or signing up for recurring bills. Normally when you think of “bad design”, you think of the creator as being sloppy or lazy bu

Re: [WAR] If Hillary Becomes USA President, Will We Have a Nuclear War?

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
And more: ** Julian Assange tells New York Times they are “erecting” a Hillary Clinton “demon” (http://theduran.com/julian-assange-tells-new-york-times-creating-hillary-clintondemon/) julian assange Julian Assange says America’s mainst

Re: [WAR] If Hillary Becomes USA President, Will We Have a Nuclear War?

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
** Watch CNN, Marine Le Pen interview: ‘Hillary Clinton is war, devastation, instability, world conflict’ (http://theduran.com/watch-cnn-marine-le-penn-interview-hillary-clinton-is-war-devastation-instability-world-conflict/) marine le pe

Re: [ultra ULTRA private] [for your eyes only] capitalism, socialism, anarchism, self-regulation

2016-09-01 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:27 PM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 18:52:55 -0700 > Razer wrote: >> The Defense Language Institute > > First time I see that name. You are more familiar with it > apparently. Perhaps family or friends work there? Or maybe just half the internet alr

Re: [ultra ULTRA private] [for your eyes only] capitalism, socialism, anarchism, self-regulation

2016-09-01 Thread Razer
On 09/01/2016 07:27 PM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 18:52:55 -0700 > Razer wrote: > >> >> >> On 09/01/2016 06:24 PM, juan wanted me to do something for him: >> *find out how many US government agents like me know that spanish word rayzer. >> >> >> The Defense Language Insti

Re: Thisssss Means... [WAR!] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Razer
On 09/01/2016 07:19 PM, juan wrote: >> as long as it moves to the anti-imperialist ANTIWAR left. > > Ah you mean obama. > You really need to get your meds adjusted if you read that and it made sense to you... Fed. I hear they give you guise the gd ones. Rr > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 1

Re: [ultra ULTRA private] [for your eyes only] capitalism, socialism, anarchism, self-regulation

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 18:52:55 -0700 Razer wrote: > > > On 09/01/2016 06:24 PM, juan wanted me to do something for him: > > >> *find out how many US government agents like me know that spanish > >> word rayzer. > >> > > > The Defense Language Institute First time I see that name. You

Re: Thisssss Means... [WAR!] ...

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 18:47:39 -0700 Razer wrote: > > > Remind me why you exist Juan? What, you already feel like calling heimland security? Asking a shibag marxist like you why he trolls this list is a more legitimate question... > > ...and your attempts to

Re: IndependentOnion / RotorBrowser / Rotor - Interview

2016-09-01 Thread Razer
Is this typical? It doesn't SEEM 'transparent' "This organization has no public members. You must be a member to see who’s a part of this organization." https://github.com/IndependentOnion Reminds me of hate groups that infest Facebook's 'closed groups'. Rr On 09/01/2016 06:40 PM, grarpamp w

Re: [ultra ULTRA private] [for your eyes only] capitalism, socialism, anarchism, self-regulation

2016-09-01 Thread Razer
On 09/01/2016 06:24 PM, juan wanted me to do something for him: >> *find out how many US government agents like me know that spanish word >> rayzer. >> The Defense Language Institute teaches feds like you how to cuss like a Mexican... At other facilities they have whole mock-up villages whe

Re: Thisssss Means... [WAR!] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Razer
On 09/01/2016 06:34 PM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 18:07:59 -0700 > Razer wrote: > >> basic precepts of Anarchist society. most >> recently expressed by the EZLN (aka Zapatista Army of National >> Liberation) as: > > > NATIONAL marxist 'anarchism'. Ah rayzer...Nothing says freedom

IndependentOnion / RotorBrowser / Rotor - Interview

2016-09-01 Thread grarpamp
# IndependentOnion / RotorBrowser / Rotor - Interview # intro 00:06:29-00:07:51 # exclusive jmprcx from 00:12:37-00:31:27, 00:37:02-00:51:30 # ppi commentary from 00:51:30-01:02:01 https://www.spreaker.com/user/anonukire/t0pg3arliv3-rotor-torfork-new-tor-broswe https://api.spreaker.com/download/epi

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 18:07:59 -0700 Razer wrote: > basic precepts of Anarchist society. most > recently expressed by the EZLN (aka Zapatista Army of National > Liberation) as: NATIONAL marxist 'anarchism'. Ah rayzer...Nothing says freedom like The Nation. And remind me a

Re: [ultra ULTRA private] [for your eyes only] capitalism, socialism, anarchism, self-regulation

2016-09-01 Thread juan
Razer vomited : > marcusse So for completness sake, here's rayzer spiritual mentor https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/marcuse/works/1969/essay-liberation.pdf Well, I learnt something today! That deranged scumbag narcusse was a psicobolche* =) =) =)

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Razer
On 09/01/2016 05:03 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote (I believe without smirking or other facial tics): > Juan is one of the few staunch anarchists (aka direct democracy) on this list! ROTF! You... are... SUCH a kidder! AFAICT there's no such thing as a "Libertarian Anarchist" as J claims along with

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Razer
On 09/01/2016 04:04 PM, juan wrote: > No. The totalitarian state you love so much isn't close to collapse. That's > why we are fucked. Doom and gloom... You're the narc Juan. You're the one ALWAYS saying don't bother trying your efforts at (X) are wasted (unless ofc we take your pov as ours

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent (was: Re: moving on))

2016-09-01 Thread grarpamp
> will work to sync up the archives so that the split brain we've been Don't taint the provenance... just as your archive contains only yours, this file should only contain messages from newby's server: https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks.mbox/cypherpunks.mbox.gz You can host your own

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 02:52:17PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > What do you think that crypto-anarchy does and does not imply? A mailing list with some cool ideas which possibly: - need to be pre-empted to protect the establishment - can be used by the establishment to reinforce the establi

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 01:59:16PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 9/1/16 1:35 PM, juan wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:21:19 -0700 > > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > > >> On 9/1/16 1:16 PM, juan wrote: > >>> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:34:53 -0700 > >>> "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > >>> > >

Re: [WAR] ... and AP

2016-09-01 Thread Sean Lynch
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 3:26 PM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 11:28:38 -0700 > Sean Lynch wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > 'chaos' is just a propaganda term, at least the way you are > > > using it. If I support 'chaos' then you support the > > > 'ordered' fascism we live in? > >

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 01:21:19PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 9/1/16 1:16 PM, juan wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:34:53 -0700 > > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > > >> Our > >> political system limits and weeds out crazy, preventing it from > >> taking over. > > The US is full

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 12:34:53PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > Nice Zenaan, good responses to much of what you were responding to. > (Which must have been a troll, no sane, educated, adult thinks those > ways in the US.) 50 CIA agents publicly signing a petition to the president of the USA

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/1/16 4:43 PM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 14:52:17 -0700 > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > >> Have you actually read the Manifesto in its several forms? Do you >> understand it? >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-anarchism >> [2] http://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarc

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 14:52:17 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > Have you actually read the Manifesto in its several forms? Do you > understand it? > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-anarchism > [2] http://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html And here's [3]

Re: [WAR] ... and AP

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 10:57:49AM -0700, Sean Lynch wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:47 AM, juan wrote: > > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:35:47 +1000 > > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 02:47:08AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > > > > How about we implement a working AP system? > >

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Mirimir
On 09/01/2016 09:25 AM, Razer wrote: > Something Paul Goodman, founder of Gestalt Therapy and Anarchist said to > some technologists in 1967 comes to mind > > "...speaking by invitation to the National Security Industrial > Association —a consortium of arms manufacturers at the October 1967 > “

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 14:52:17 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > >> > >> Prove that isn't true. > > You made the crazy claim, you should prove it. However > > since you are one of those crazies you talk about, you > > can't do it. > > I did prove it: History is packed full of evidence

Re: [WAR] ... and AP

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 11:28:38 -0700 Sean Lynch wrote: > > > > > > 'chaos' is just a propaganda term, at least the way you are > > using it. If I support 'chaos' then you support the > > 'ordered' fascism we live in? > > > > The question is always "support" relative to what?

Fwd: Feminist Principles of the Internet

2016-09-01 Thread HateSpeech
> Cecilia Tanaka: > www.feministinternet.net Fuck your feminist (otherist) principals.

Google App Store Takedown Process

2016-09-01 Thread Wilfred L. Guerin
Google App Store Takedown Process? First, does anyone have an example of App store export restriction takedown process, especially for including encryption libraries? Second, where are any lists of all encryption and encoding functions, especially all the various NIST and russian submissions and

Typical thread on cpunks (Was: Wodka xor Viskii)

2016-09-01 Thread ListBaby
> Georgi Guninski: > Typical thread on cpunks > .us >> cunt > .ru >> scumbag > end of convo >> double end convo^2 >>> love, love, love & kisses. 8 <- o|o > marxist >> cunt^2 > scumbag^3 >>> love & orgasms >> capitalist swine > shit >> shit^2 > end of convo^3 >> the convo ended > shit >> cunt^5 > q

Fwd: Feminist Principles of the Internet

2016-09-01 Thread HateSpeech
> Cecilia Tanaka: > www.feministinternet.net Fuck your feminist (otherist) principals.

Typical thread on cpunks (Was: Wodka xor Viskii)

2016-09-01 Thread ListBaby
> Georgi Guninski: > Typical thread on cpunks > .us >> cunt > .ru >> scumbag > end of convo >> double end convo^2 >>> love, love, love & kisses. 8 <- o|o > marxist >> cunt^2 > scumbag^3 >>> love & orgasms >> capitalist swine > shit >> shit^2 > end of convo^3 >> the convo ended > shit >> cunt^5 > q

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent (was: Re: moving on))

2016-09-01 Thread Riad S. Wahby
"Riad S. Wahby" wrote: > Also, as I promised grarpamp, I will soon publish and sign a copy > of my local cypherpunks mbox going back to mid-2013. The previous > archive, which contains every message to cypherpunks I've received > since sometime in 1999, is now available from: > https://web.jfe

Google App Store Takedown Process

2016-09-01 Thread Wilfred L. Guerin
Google App Store Takedown Process? First, does anyone have an example of App store export restriction takedown process, especially for including encryption libraries? Second, where are any lists of all encryption and encoding functions, especially all the various NIST and russian submissions and

Re: moving on (multiple future forks)

2016-09-01 Thread Riad S. Wahby
"Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > Cool. On the previous question of replicated email and mailman > servers, I was recently looking into ways to do that. Since all > email messages have unique IDs already, it isn't difficult to > replicate messages at any point while avoiding duplicates and loops.

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent (was: Re: moving on))

2016-09-01 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Greg Newby wrote: > As I just wrote, this message should be going out via the > *new* server and settings. It's addressed to cypherpunks at > lists.cpunks.org, as opposed to the regular address, cypherpunks > at cpunks.org Folks, If all has gone well, this message will reach you via the new lis

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/1/16 2:28 PM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:59:16 -0700 > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > >> On 9/1/16 1:35 PM, juan wrote: >>> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:21:19 -0700 >>> "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: >>> On 9/1/16 1:16 PM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:34:53 -0700 > "Steph

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:59:16 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > On 9/1/16 1:35 PM, juan wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:21:19 -0700 > > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > > >> On 9/1/16 1:16 PM, juan wrote: > >>> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:34:53 -0700 > >>> "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > >>> >

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/1/16 1:35 PM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:21:19 -0700 > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > >> On 9/1/16 1:16 PM, juan wrote: >>> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:34:53 -0700 >>> "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: >>> Our political system limits and weeds out crazy, preventing it from takin

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:21:19 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > On 9/1/16 1:16 PM, juan wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:34:53 -0700 > > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > > >> Our > >> political system limits and weeds out crazy, preventing it from > >> taking over. > > The US is full of c

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/1/16 1:16 PM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:34:53 -0700 > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > >> Our >> political system limits and weeds out crazy, preventing it from >> taking over. > The US is full of crazy fucks like you, and of course the % of > crazy fucks among politicia

Re: distractions

2016-09-01 Thread John Newman
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:11:50PM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > On 08/31/2016 09:59 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Whilst those with any passion for actual political anarchy (aka direct > > democracy) are drowned out with rather pathetic psyop attempts at > > steering the conversation, > > > > the spac

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:34:53 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > Our > political system limits and weeds out crazy, preventing it from > taking over. The US is full of crazy fucks like you, and of course the % of crazy fucks among politicians, military murderers and the

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Stephen D. Williams
Nice Zenaan, good responses to much of what you were responding to. (Which must have been a troll, no sane, educated, adult thinks those ways in the US.) You sometimes have knee-jerk comebacks to any statement from any American, trying hard to interpret everything in the worst possible way. Bu

Re: [WAR] ... and AP

2016-09-01 Thread Sean Lynch
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 11:20 AM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:57:49 -0700 > Sean Lynch wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:47 AM, juan wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:35:47 +1000 > > > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 02:47:08AM -0600, Mirimir wrote

Re: [WAR] ... and AP

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:57:49 -0700 Sean Lynch wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:47 AM, juan wrote: > > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:35:47 +1000 > > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 02:47:08AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > > > > How about we implement a working AP system? > > > > >

Re: [WAR] ... and AP

2016-09-01 Thread Razer
On 09/01/2016 10:57 AM, Sean Lynch wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:47 AM, juan > wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:35:47 +1000 > Zenaan Harkness mailto:z...@freedbms.net>> wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 02:47:08AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > > > H

Re: [WAR] ... and AP

2016-09-01 Thread Sean Lynch
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:47 AM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:35:47 +1000 > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 02:47:08AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > > > How about we implement a working AP system? > > > > As I said in a previous thread, I now believe that to be fundamentall

Re: Scatological distractions [Was: distractions]

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:48:10 -0700 Razer wrote: > > > On 08/31/2016 09:40 PM, juan wrote (in more ways than simply > typographically): > > > > wow - another piece of fascist shit came back from the dead. > > > Look up the definition of "scatological" Juan... As I mentioned in my

Re: Scatological distractions [Was: distractions]

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:29:15 -0700 Razer wrote: > > > On 08/31/2016 09:40 PM, juan wrote (in more ways than simply > typographically): > > > > piece-of-shit > > > Look up the definition of "scatological" Juan... I know you can do I know you are stupid piece-pf-shit rayzer - you don'

Re: Scatological distractions [Was: distractions]

2016-09-01 Thread Razer
On 08/31/2016 09:40 PM, juan wrote (in more ways than simply typographically): > wow - another piece of fascist shit came back from the dead. Look up the definition of "scatological" Juan... I know you can do it... Rr > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 14:29:28 +1000 > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> On

Re: Typical thread on cpunks (Was: Wodka xor Viskii)

2016-09-01 Thread juan
Georgi Guninski wrote: > Typical thread on cpunks The problem is your email client Georgi. And I mean email client in a metaphorical way. If you want completely stupid and useless discussions about 'technology' and 'encryption' you can always join the fully

Re: [WAR] Yugoslavia - Wrongly Accused: The Absolution of Slobodan Milošević (by the ICT)

2016-09-01 Thread Xer0Dynamite
It's not the USA -- it's every adult who let people with no voice be ignored so that their party could continue indefinitely. There is a lot wrong with science these days and Judgement Day seems to happening. The media can't be trusted, but perhaps you're a bot and that's all you have, eh? \0x O

Re: [WAR] ... and AP

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:35:47 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 02:47:08AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > > How about we implement a working AP system? > > As I said in a previous thread, I now believe that to be fundamentally > flawed - that it will not achieve anything resembling j

Re: Scatological distractions [Was: distractions]

2016-09-01 Thread Razer
On 08/31/2016 09:40 PM, juan wrote (in more ways than simply typographically): > piece-of-shit Look up the definition of "scatological" Juan... I know you can do it... Rr > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 14:29:28 +1000 > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:11:50PM -0600, Mirimir w

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 03:46:58 -0600 Mirimir wrote: > On 09/01/2016 03:17 AM, Lodewijk andré de la porte wrote: > > ... If you want to see what anarchy does, basically Detroit. As soon > > as things start looking better, it starts looking more like > > government. > > You're probably right, given p

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 18:17:12 +0900 Lodewijk andré de la porte wrote: > ATM we would win. Perhaps the idiotic US candidates are put forth to > provoke war on our terms. A war we would win - with large casualties. > A war we should fight if we like democracy and individualistic > financial economy

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Razer
On 08/31/2016 10:43 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > On 08/31/2016 11:47 PM, Александр wrote: >> this has already been discussed dozens of times (on the thread >> about "offtopic" posts) -> Zen is NOT talking to himself. There are >> thousands of people here on the list. Only~15 of them participate >> m

Re: [WAR] If Hillary Becomes USA President, Will We Have a Nuclear War?

2016-09-01 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Guys, Hillary is crazy, but Trump is a complete psychopath, able of alliances with other psychos, like Putin. He will use the red button and "booom"... Bye, bye world! Not only my grandparents' land this time. -- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it

Re: [WAR] If Hillary Becomes USA President, Will We Have a Nuclear War?

2016-09-01 Thread grarpamp
> Who is most likely to start WW3? Trump is an unknown to some degree. > Hillary is a certainty - her record is an absolute indictment. Trump is a business guy, and most biz he knows is real estate. Conventional war is big biz, but fucks other traditional biz like RE, and nuke war is simply death

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 10:27:30PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Yes some are paying America's usual price - Brazil, South America and s/America/Africa/

Re: moving on (multiple future forks)

2016-09-01 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 8/23/16 10:10 AM, Riad S. Wahby wrote: > Georgi Guninski wrote: >> IMHO two or more future lists won't hurt. Everyone can set a >> cypherpunks list (but won't get the past reputation of this one, if any). > This is how cpunks was run from 1997 until mid-2005, when this > became the only node. I

Re: Fwd: Feminist Principles of the Internet

2016-09-01 Thread Sangy
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 05:46:41AM -0300, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > Juan, my love, dear 'mal cogido' of my life, > > Did I mention today how much I adore you? *-* > > With all my love and tenderness, ow! <3 > > Ceci You may find this[1] interesting. -S [1] http://arrow.org.my/wp-content/uplo

Re: Fwd: Feminist Principles of the Internet

2016-09-01 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Sep 1, 2016 10:50 AM, "Sangy" wrote > > You may find this[1] interesting. > > -S > > [1] http://arrow.org.my/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/AFC22.1-2016.pdf Cool, Sangy! Interesting material! Thank you! :D -- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 10:27:30PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > We have the collective right to individual enlightenment! Who are we > to deny that to the "lowest"? Sorry, that should be as follows: We have the collective right to a societal foundation supporting the possibility of individual e

Re: Typical thread on cpunks (Was: Wodka xor Viskii)

2016-09-01 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
I choose swines too. Oink oink, with pearls! :D -- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." On Sep 1, 2016 10:29 AM, "Cecilia Tanaka" wrote: > I choose > > love, love, love & kisses!!! <3 <3 <3 > > When Jake had choosen "love & orgasms", they made

Typical thread on cpunks (Was: Wodka xor Viskii)

2016-09-01 Thread Georgi Guninski
Typical thread on cpunks Subject: Wodka xor Viskii? ( ">"s truncated) > .us >> cunt > .ru >> scumbag > end of convo >> double end convo^2 >>> love, love, love & kisses. 8 <- o|o > marxist >> cunt^2 > scumbag^3 >>> love & orgasms >> capitalist swine > shit >> shit^2 > end of convo^3 >> the convo

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 02:47:08AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > How about we implement a working AP system? As I said in a previous thread, I now believe that to be fundamentally flawed - that it will not achieve anything resembling justice, even in the long term. Fundamentally, the oligarchs and huma

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 06:17:12PM +0900, Lodewijk andré de la porte wrote: > We do make sport of improvement plans for the global situation. I feel we > do pretty well, probably on account of tossing history and a lot of feeling > out of the window. More importantly, we ignore the difficulty of re

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Mirimir
On 09/01/2016 03:17 AM, Lodewijk andré de la porte wrote: > ... If you want to see what anarchy does, basically Detroit. As soon > as things start looking better, it starts looking more like government. You're probably right, given people as they are now :( Old Bill Burroughs made the modest prop

Re: [WAR] If Hillary Becomes USA President, Will We Have a Nuclear War?

2016-09-01 Thread Lodewijk andré de la porte
The way Hillary handled the North/South Korea issues during her term as Sec of State was simply horrid, leading to the greatest tension in a very very long time. Basically, showing the US' teeth to a cat in a corner. Just to see if it really won't back down. It was a moronic policy, and could well

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Lodewijk andré de la porte
We do make sport of improvement plans for the global situation. I feel we do pretty well, probably on account of tossing history and a lot of feeling out of the window. More importantly, we ignore the difficulty of reaching the envisioned state. It is interesting, and could well improve our ideas o

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Mirimir
On 09/01/2016 02:17 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 12:01:41AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: >> On 08/31/2016 11:43 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: >>> On 08/31/2016 11:47 PM, Александр wrote: > > Mirimir, fantastic post. And a choice quote to succinctly summarise from > the Brzezinski essay

Fwd: Feminist Principles of the Internet

2016-09-01 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Juan, my love, dear 'mal cogido' of my life, Did I mention today how much I adore you? *-* With all my love and tenderness, ow! <3 Ceci -- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -- Forwarded message -- From: "nettime's token femini

Re: [tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/

2016-09-01 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Why does someone watch p0rn before sleeping, when can watch Putin videos? Oooh, orgasms... *-* http://youtu.be/wHfy2P9vd0c Wet dreams, Mirimir, love of my life! <3 Received the "Cecilian Seal of Approval", yummy! Nom no

Re: [WAR] If Hillary Becomes USA President, Will We Have a Nuclear War?

2016-09-01 Thread jim bell
In 1964, the Democrats ran a famous commercial, a little girl counting flower petals, turning into an image of the explosion of an atomic bomb.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDTBnsqxZ3k Trying to suggest that Barry Goldwater would get us into war. I think that a major element of the hypocrisy w

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 06:17:57PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 12:01:41AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > > On 08/31/2016 11:43 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 08/31/2016 11:47 PM, Александр wrote: > > Mirimir, fantastic post. And a choice quote to succinctly summarise from S

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 12:01:41AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > On 08/31/2016 11:43 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > > On 08/31/2016 11:47 PM, Александр wrote: Mirimir, fantastic post. And a choice quote to succinctly summarise from the Brzezinski essay a possibly fundamental paradigm shift about to take hold

Re: [tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/

2016-09-01 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Sep 1, 2016 5:08 AM, "Cecilia Tanaka" wrote: > > On Aug 31, 2016 2:53 PM, "Juan" wrote: > > >> Original Message > >> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/ > >> Local Time: August 30, 2016 7:26 AM > >> UTC Time: August 30, 2016 2:26 PM > >> From: cecilia.tan...@gm

Re: [tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/

2016-09-01 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Aug 31, 2016 2:53 PM, "Juan" wrote: >> Original Message >> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/ >> Local Time: August 30, 2016 7:26 AM >> UTC Time: August 30, 2016 2:26 PM >> From: cecilia.tan...@gmail.com >> To: cypherpu...@cpunks.org >> >> > > LMFAO - It has

Re: distractions

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:07:59PM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > On 08/31/2016 10:29 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:11:50PM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > >> On 08/31/2016 09:59 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >>> Whilst those with any passion for actual political anarchy (aka direct > >

Re: distractions

2016-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:11:50PM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > Right, mostly by your bullshit. And Juan's scatological blather. So flowery words are the part you find relevant. Got it.

Re: [WAR] ...

2016-09-01 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/01/2016 02:01 AM, Mirimir wrote: >> Technologists are likely to assume that political problems are >> products of stupidity, and that putting their own kind of >> intelligence in the driver's seat would automatically create >> optimum solutio