Re: p2p vs piracy vs corp/gov dictates [was: unchanged generic subject]

from p2p-hackers On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:52 AM, grarpamp wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:13 AM, David Barrett wrote: >> >> My sense is p2p tech is on the downswing, but not forever. With Netflix >> focusing more on original content, Pandora looking at being acquired, etc -- >> the days of ver

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On 12/04/2016 10:20 PM, jim bell wrote: > *From:* Shawn K. Quinn >> Kellogg's wanted to retain their customers. Their customers didn't >> want the company supporting Breitbart with advertising. > > You are writing this as if there is only one kind of Kelloggs > customer, and that customer "Their

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 04:18:56AM -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On 12/04/2016 03:56 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > And of course you say that's not a political action, and is the same > > as these other supposed companys who did not make such public > > statements. > > Kellogg's wanted to reta

Re: reason vs. rationalization

On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 11:43:39PM -0500, Steve Kinney wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 12/04/2016 09:42 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Here's a fine ("useful") distinction which jumps out this very > > day: > > > > " Reason is slippery because language is. Re

Re: reason vs. rationalization

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 23:43:39 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: -- > odd. I thought the task of "true philosophy" was to evaluate > the internal consistency of logical statements, in a context where > physical evidence or relevance to material situations is not > considered. No it isn't.

Re: reason vs. rationalization

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/04/2016 09:42 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Here's a fine ("useful") distinction which jumps out this very > day: > > " Reason is slippery because language is. Reason can easily become > rationalization and discerning the difference is the tas

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

From: Shawn K. Quinn On 12/04/2016 03:56 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> And of course you say that's not a political action, and is the same >> as these other supposed companys who did not make such public >> statements. >Kellogg's wanted to retain their customers. Their customers didn't

Re: taxonomical effects in reducing fear, uncertainty and doubt - the 5 types of Neo-Nazis

This is like the "What kind of Goth are you" bullshit teenagers like. There's only one kind of Nazi and most that aren't long dead... They're 90 years old or so. Dressing up and putting pics of Hitler on your wall while you snap your heels, heil, and goosestep around doesn't make you a Nazi. Nazi

Re: on the Palestinians

On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 10:10:48AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I am an Israeli resident and terribly bothered by the death of so many > people in this war. ... Simple question: is it anti-semitic, to oppose Israel's ethnic cleansing of Palestinian lands and people, for the expansion of Israel?

taxonomical effects in reducing fear, uncertainty and doubt - the 5 types of Neo-Nazis

Also titled: "What is a Neo-Nazi and How Can I Become One?" Here's an extract: Let us consider the five types of Neo-Nazis. - Ironic Nazis - This group of Neo-Nazis uses imagery of Nazism and claims to be Nazi because it's funny and upsets Jews and cucks. They like Hitler, but aren't a

Re: reason vs. rationalization

On Sun, 04 Dec 2016 21:58:00 -0500 rooty wrote: > Folks - please have a look. Excellent resource! Have you stoped beating your wife?

Re: reason vs. rationalization

Folks - please have a look. Excellent resource! www.dailystormer.com Original Message On Dec 4, 2016, 6:42 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Here's a fine ("useful") distinction which jumps out this very day: " Reason is slippery because language is. Reason can easily become rational

reason vs. rationalization

Here's a fine ("useful") distinction which jumps out this very day: " Reason is slippery because language is. Reason can easily become rationalization and discerning the difference is the task of true philosophy. " Dr Matthew Raphael Johnson on Petre Tutea of Romania http://www.dailystormer.com/t

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 10:17:22PM -0300, Juan wrote: > On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 22:58:55 -0200 > Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > > On Dec 4, 2016 9:04 PM, "juan" wrote: > > > Furthermore, when the Tor Inc. pentagon nazis censored > > > 'their' > > list your reply was something like "I don't like i

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 23:53:31 -0200 Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > On Dec 4, 2016 10:17 PM, "juan" wrote: > > > > What is that supposed to mean? He is a shitbag, but > > according to > you he is a great. YOU are the one who SIDES with a SHITBAG like > quinn. It is YOUR problem. > > Well, tecnic

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Dec 4, 2016 10:17 PM, "juan" wrote: > > What is that supposed to mean? He is a shitbag, but according to you he is a great. YOU are the one who SIDES with a SHITBAG like quinn. It is YOUR problem. Well, tecnically, you are also a "shitbag", toxic garbage, waste of time and a lot of ba

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 22:58:55 -0200 Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > I respect a lot of Tor Project colaborators in the whole world and > their respective works, their sincere efforts. I never would harm > their work or would cause troubles because Translation : you support the operation of t

epic triggering

Not recommended for anyone triggerable. An epic cartoon production of epic Alt-Right propaganda proportions, and FWIW may well go down as a piece of collectors cult history. Again, trigger warning, already banned from YouTube, but an alt link has been provided. Alt-Right productions pres

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On 12/04/2016 12:35 PM, juan wrote: > And why is a complete anti-libertarian scumbag like the > rayzer subscribed to this list? I dunno? "Libertarian" wasn't in the list of qualifications for deluxe membership. Ps. Libertarian Anarchists are cut from the same block of scum they cut

Re: FBI to gain expanded hacking powers as Senate effort to block fails

On Sun, 04 Dec 2016 20:02:23 -0500 rooty wrote: > mmm.. don't get it. Rather than look at said agencies as enemies - I Come on rooty. Tell us how do you amuse yourself? Torture kitten maybe? > see them as agencies trying to help and protect - of course 2 > important thin

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 22:58:55 -0200 Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > On Dec 4, 2016 9:04 PM, "juan" wrote: > > > > Maybe you don't, but quinn, whom you are so thouroughly > > praising, > certainly does. > > His convictions, not mine. What is that supposed to mean? He is a shitbag, but

bankocracy

>From Italy with amore: “Is it democratic that the banks have taken control of the institutions? This is called “bankocracy,” not democracy."[...] “We are convinced that, if we are able to take back sovereignty we can raise Italy from the rubble, but we will be governing a country in rubble. “Yo

Re: FBI to gain expanded hacking powers as Senate effort to block fails

mmm.. don't get it. Rather than look at said agencies as enemies - I see them as agencies trying to help and protect - of course 2 important things I don't break the law don't owe them money Simple - Original Message On Dec 4, 2016, 4:11 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: On

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Dec 4, 2016 9:04 PM, "juan" wrote: > > Maybe you don't, but quinn, whom you are so thouroughly praising, certainly does. His convictions, not mine. > There's a rather big group of people who support censorship in this very same list and as far as I can tell you never speak aga

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 09:42:21AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 07:38:06AM -0800, Razer wrote: > > On 12/04/2016 04:31 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > Are you not aware that David Duke abhors violence as any decent man would, > > > > You're making shit up. > > The only

Re: FBI to gain expanded hacking powers as Senate effort to block fails

On Dec 4, 2016 8:45 PM, "rooty" wrote: > > right - they been doing that shit for Years. No problems here although I'm not brown and from Seria "No problems here", rooty? Are you crazy, boy? We are discussing the future of world' surveillance, not your 'absence of problems'. It is _not_ about t

Re: FBI to gain expanded hacking powers as Senate effort to block fails

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/04/2016 06:56 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > On Dec 4, 2016 8:38 PM, "Mirimir" > wrote: >> >> On 12/04/2016 04:19 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: >>> >>> I don't think the FBI will gain expanded powers of >>> surveillance; >

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 21:14:14 -0200 Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > On Dec 4, 2016 5:32 PM, "juan" wrote: > > > > On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:58:04 -0200 > > Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > > > > I know Shawn -- not Sean! -- is a good person, very patient and > polite and likes to present other perspectives, > > >

Re: FBI to gain expanded hacking powers as Senate effort to block fails

On Dec 4, 2016 8:38 PM, "Mirimir" wrote: > > On 12/04/2016 04:19 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > > > > I don't think the FBI will gain expanded powers of surveillance; rather, they will gain the ability to use information they already routinely gather by illegal means openly, in Court filings. Where pr

Re: FBI to gain expanded hacking powers as Senate effort to block fails

On Sun, 04 Dec 2016 18:45:09 -0500 rooty wrote: > right - they been doing that shit for Years. No problems here > although I'm not brown and from Seria So tell us rooty, what's your favorite hobby? Maybe beat children to death? > > > > > > > Original Message

Re: FBI to gain expanded hacking powers as Senate effort to block fails

right - they been doing that shit for Years. No problems here although I'm not brown and from Seria Original Message On Dec 4, 2016, 3:38 PM, Mirimir wrote: On 12/04/2016 04:19 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 12/04/2016 01:27 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: >> On Dec 4, 2016 3:

Re: FBI to gain expanded hacking powers as Senate effort to block fails

On 12/04/2016 04:19 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 12/04/2016 01:27 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: >> On Dec 4, 2016 3:03 PM, "rooty" > > wrote: >>> >>> This is a good thing - war on terror here we come > >> No, boy, it is _not_ a good thing. The governments and its

Re: FBI to gain expanded hacking powers as Senate effort to block fails

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/04/2016 01:27 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > On Dec 4, 2016 3:03 PM, "rooty" > wrote: >> >> This is a good thing - war on terror here we come > > No, boy, it is _not_ a good thing. The governments and its > inst

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Dec 4, 2016 5:32 PM, "juan" wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:58:04 -0200 > Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > > I know Shawn -- not Sean! -- is a good person, very patient and polite and likes to present other perspectives, > > Quoted to highlight the fact that you side with just another pro-

on the Palestinians

A letter and response - an Israeli presumably seeking to comprehend Hamas declaring ongoing war against Israel. Hi Dr. Duke. I am an Israeli resident and terribly bothered by the death of so many people in this war. On the other hand, at least as I understand, Hamas is declaring they will

Re: downplaying the 'murican public debt

On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 07:37:47PM +0200, Georgi Guninski wrote: > On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 08:20:20AM -0500, John Newman wrote: > > Math a bit off there, chum. Hint: trillion > billion. > > No, this is no math bug. 'murico-russian trolls are downplaying the > 'murican public debt. Reliably poignan

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 07:38:06AM -0800, Razer wrote: > On 12/04/2016 04:31 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Are you not aware that David Duke abhors violence as any decent man would, > > You're making shit up. > The only violence Dave Duke abhors is violence against him. > Here's Dave Duke calling

Re: Fwd: Re: [tor-talk] Javascript exploit

Settle down georgi - I no this kinda stuff excites you Original Message On Dec 4, 2016, 10:16 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 02:23:28PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: > Forwarded Message > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Javascript exploit > Date: Wed, 30

Re: I Am a Dangerous Professor

On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 02:28:46PM +, Ben Tasker wrote: > Digging around, it looks like this is the post that lead to him being added > to that list - > http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/12/24/dear-white-america/ > > It's quite long, and self-indulgent at times, but worth a read. I can

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 07:38:06 -0800 Razer wrote: > > > On 12/04/2016 04:31 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Are you not aware that David Duke abhors violence as any decent man > > would, > > You're making shit up. What does the rayzer scumbag stands for? He is a gallant defender

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:58:04 -0200 Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > I know Shawn -- not Sean! -- is a good person, very patient and > polite and likes to present other perspectives, Quoted to highlight the fact that you side with just another pro-censorship piece of american shit, who w

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 23:31:05 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Are you not aware that David Duke abhors violence Really? So he's an anarchist? OK, OK, no he doesn't abhor violence. Duke is a fucking american nazi, of the sincere variety. What are you trying to

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 05:20:10 -0600 "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: > Mr. Harkness, > > I refuse to engage in debate with anyone who is willing to basically > say they approve of the KKK Shawn, you are an american statist. The KKK is just a tiny fraction of the nazi state you fully suppo

Re: FBI to gain expanded hacking powers as Senate effort to block fails

On Dec 4, 2016 3:03 PM, "rooty" wrote: > > This is a good thing - war on terror here we come No, boy, it is _not_ a good thing. The governments and its institutions and agencies are the real terror and they will use 'a greater good' -- terrorism, paedophilia, spying, whatever -- as excuse to d

Re: Fwd: Re: [tor-talk] Javascript exploit

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 02:23:28PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: > Forwarded Message > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Javascript exploit > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:28:52 -0500 > From: Roger Dingledine > Reply-To: tor-t...@lists.torproject.org > To: tor-t...@lists.torproject.org > > On Wed, No

Re: FBI to gain expanded hacking powers as Senate effort to block fails

This is a good thing - war on terror here we come Original Message On Dec 4, 2016, 6:09 AM, Ben Tasker wrote: > In an effort to address concerns, U.S. Assistant Attorney General Leslie > Caldwell wrote a blog post this week arguing that the > benefits given to > authorities

Re: downplaying the 'murican public debt

On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 08:20:20AM -0500, John Newman wrote: > Math a bit off there, chum. Hint: trillion > billion. > No, this is no math bug. 'murico-russian trolls are downplaying the 'murican public debt.

Re: I Am a Dangerous Professor

Nytimes is shit- don't read it or you will end up like all other college age liberal pukes who want something for nothing - gtfo Original Message On Dec 4, 2016, 6:28 AM, Ben Tasker wrote: Digging around, it looks like this is the post that lead to him being added to that l

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On 12/04/2016 04:31 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Are you not aware that David Duke abhors violence as any decent man would, You're making shit up. The only violence Dave Duke abhors is violence against him. Here's Dave Duke calling for the death of the Chicago 7, 8 21, whatever. https://68.

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

[OT - OT - OT] On Dec 3, 2016 12:42 PM, "Razer" wrote: > > On 12/03/2016 02:16 AM, Zenaan Harkness quoted, as is his specialty, a racist sexist, antisemitic right-wing hit site famous for publishing disinformation: Sorry, my dear Razer, what were you waiting for? Zzz -- yawn, boring! -- is

Re: I Am a Dangerous Professor

Digging around, it looks like this is the post that lead to him being added to that list - http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/12/24/dear-white-america/ It's quite long, and self-indulgent at times, but worth a read. I can see how some would object to it though, a letter saying "If you're wh

Re: FBI to gain expanded hacking powers as Senate effort to block fails

> In an effort to address concerns, U.S. Assistant Attorney General Leslie Caldwell wrote a blog post this week arguing that the > benefits given to authorities from the rule changes outweighed any potential for "unintended harm." That old line again. We know there are some serious concerns about

I Am a Dangerous Professor

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/30/opinion/i-am-a-dangerous-professor.html Those familiar with George Orwell's "1984" will recall that "Newspeak was designed not to extend but to diminish the range of thought." I recently felt the weight of this Orwellian ethos when many of my students sent em

Extremists Turn to a Leader to Protect Western Values: Vladimir Putin

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/03/world/americas/alt-right-vladimir-putin.html For Mr. Heimbach is far from alone in his esteem for Mr. Putin. Throughout the collection of white ethnocentrists, nationalists, populists and neo-Nazis that has taken root on both sides of the Atlantic, Mr. Putin

Pirate Party invited to form a government in Iceland

REYKJAVIK (AFP) – Iceland’s president on Friday invited the anti-establishment Pirate Party to form a government, after both the right and left-wing parties each failed in their bids. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/03/iceland-pirate-party-form-government/ Good luck Pirate Partan Reykjavi

Re: politically incorrect black gold! - Black TV Host Takes on David Duke with Incredible Interview

On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 08:20:20AM -0500, John Newman wrote: > > > On Dec 4, 2016, at 12:16 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 11:33:47PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> Black TV Host Takes on David Duke with Incredible Interview > >> http://davidduke.com/black-tv-hos

Re: politically incorrect black gold! - Black TV Host Takes on David Duke with Incredible Interview

> On Dec 4, 2016, at 12:16 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 11:33:47PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> Black TV Host Takes on David Duke with Incredible Interview >> http://davidduke.com/black-tv-host-takes-on-david-duke-with-incredible-interview/ >> http://www.youtube.co

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 05:20:10AM -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > Mr. Harkness, > > I refuse to engage in debate with anyone who is willing to basically say > they approve of the KKK and the type of hate they are involved in. If That's not a substantial fact. But this is: Are you not aware that

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On 12/03/2016 09:41 AM, Razer wrote: > > > On 12/03/2016 02:16 AM, Zenaan Harkness quoted, as is his specialty, a > racist sexist, antisemitic right-wing hit site famous for publishing > disinformation: > >> "In March last year, Missouri admitted that they had lost about 1,500 >> students and we

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 09:37:01PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I have yet to look into the existence of any therapies to counter the > negative IQ effects of infact fluoride exposure (most everyone in the s/infact/infant/ > West today, due to almost universal municipal water fluoridation).

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

Mr. Harkness, I refuse to engage in debate with anyone who is willing to basically say they approve of the KKK and the type of hate they are involved in. If you are willing to apologize and completely disavow your association with known racists and bigots such as David Duke, I might reconsider. H

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 04:44:57AM -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On 12/04/2016 04:37 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > -- > > Save America - www.DavidDuke.com > > This discredits every point you are trying to make. It's like swapping > out the concrete foundation of your million dollar mansion

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On 12/04/2016 04:37 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > -- > Save America - www.DavidDuke.com This discredits every point you are trying to make. It's like swapping out the concrete foundation of your million dollar mansion for quicksand. You may as well have said "Read 'Mein Kampf' by Adolf Hitler

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 04:18:56AM -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On 12/04/2016 03:56 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > You say that as though it's the same situation - did you get too > > many extra doses of fluoride as a tot? > > Irrelevant Actually not irrelevant, but entirely apropos given your

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On 12/04/2016 03:56 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > You say that as though it's the same situation - did you get too > many extra doses of fluoride as a tot? Irrelevant > - Those last 4 words make all the difference. That's the point > Shawne, No E > Kelloggs decided to get political by making a

Re: Less than 4 weeks after riding “THE ESTABLISHMENT" spiel to victory Trump invites them into his admin

On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 09:32:02PM -0800, Razer wrote: > His heavily armed true believing TrumpStrumpets are already getting 'a > little tight in the jaw' as they say in the Knee-Grow neighborhoods. > It's going to cost the US taxpayers more to keep this putz alive than it > cost to keep 'Kenyan Mu

Re: USA Universities learn the consequences of disrespecting free speech

On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 09:38:32PM -0800, Razer wrote: > > > On 12/03/2016 09:25 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > > On 12/03/2016 10:53 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > And if Kellogg is suddenly so finicky, we must ask: Why, then, does > > Kellogg deign to sell its products, according to its web