Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-29 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 01:41:46AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > No, the real standard in use decades before the masses fucked up > the internet is to use a capable mailer and capable filters and conform > yourself to the awesome. If you're getting too much mail, turn it into not > much mail with neomut

Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-29 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 05:37:38PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 01:41:46AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > > No, the real standard in use decades before the masses fucked up > > the internet is to use a capable mailer and capable filters and conform > > yourself to the awesome.

Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-29 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 05:37:38PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 01:41:46AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > > No, the real standard in use decades before the masses fucked up > > the internet is to use a capable mailer and capable filters and conform > > yourself to the awesome.

Re: JustSecurity: "Today we learned that those 2011 (Sec 702) safeguards did not work"

2017-04-29 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 04/28/2017 09:39 PM, Mirimir wrote: > It's prudent to assume that the NSA intercepts all Internet traffic. And > that it stores as much as it can, for as long as it can, focusing on > what seems most important. That everything is retained for at least a > few days. And then it gets triaged, base

Re: JustSecurity: "Today we learned that those 2011 (Sec 702) safeguards did not work"

2017-04-29 Thread juan
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 03:59:12 -0500 "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: > On 04/28/2017 09:39 PM, Mirimir wrote: > > It's prudent to assume that the NSA intercepts all Internet > > traffic. And that it stores as much as it can, for as long as it > > can, focusing on what seems most important. That everything

Re: JustSecurity: "Today we learned that those 2011 (Sec 702) safeguards did not work"

2017-04-29 Thread Mirimir
On 04/28/2017 09:59 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On 04/28/2017 09:39 PM, Mirimir wrote: >> It's prudent to assume that the NSA intercepts all Internet traffic. And >> that it stores as much as it can, for as long as it can, focusing on >> what seems most important. That everything is retained for at

Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-29 Thread juan
qubes garbage is bankrolled by "Open Technology Fund (OTF) - a United States government-funded program of Radio Free Asia," https://www.qubes-os.org/partners/

PKI Song

2017-04-29 Thread Jan Dušátko
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Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-29 Thread stef
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 01:41:46AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > No, the real standard in use decades before the masses fucked up > the internet is to use a capable mailer and capable filters and conform > yourself to the awesome. If you're getting too much mail, turn it into not > much mail with neomut

Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-29 Thread Ben Tasker
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 6:41 AM, grarpamp wrote: > Users can also fuck around with Thunderbird or Mailpile. > Incidentally, mailpile also satisfies the desired requirement not to have to click into a seperate folder. It uses GMail like labels Has plenty of other drawbacks, but does tick that pa

Re: Mail fetish (was: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default)

2017-04-29 Thread Vasily Kolobkov
[2017-04-29 17:37] Zenaan Harkness > On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 01:41:46AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > > neomutt > > In Debian and derivatives, I think this is called notmuch-mutt > > > maildrop, > > or mailagent (or fdm, which also fetches mail, can't speak to it > though..) > > > msmtp, > > > fet

Re: Gratuitous Cloud Shared Spycams with Mic's in Your Bedroom: Now A Reality

2017-04-29 Thread John Newman
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 2:03 AM, juan wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 00:37:40 -0400 > grarpamp wrote: > >> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/amazon-echo-look-bedroom-camera > >> Amazon is pitching it >> as an easy way to snap pictures of your outfits to send to your >> friends > >

Re: Gratuitous Cloud Shared Spycams with Mic's in Your Bedroom: Now A Reality

2017-04-29 Thread juan
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:59:48 -0400 John Newman wrote: > > > > On Apr 27, 2017, at 2:03 AM, juan wrote: > > > > On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 00:37:40 -0400 > > grarpamp wrote: > > > >> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/amazon-echo-look-bedroom-camera > > > >> Amazon is pitching it > >> as a

Re: Gratuitous Cloud Shared Spycams with Mic's in Your Bedroom: Now A Reality

2017-04-29 Thread John Newman
> On Apr 29, 2017, at 5:24 PM, juan wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:59:48 -0400 > John Newman wrote: > >> >> >>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 2:03 AM, juan wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 00:37:40 -0400 >>> grarpamp wrote: >>> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/amazon-echo-look

Re: Gratuitous Cloud Shared Spycams with Mic's in Your Bedroom: Now A Reality

2017-04-29 Thread juan
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:32:37 -0400 John Newman wrote: > > > > On Apr 29, 2017, at 5:24 PM, juan wrote: > > > > On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:59:48 -0400 > > John Newman wrote: > > > >> > >> > >>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 2:03 AM, juan wrote: > >>> > >>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 00:37:40 -0400 > >>> grar

Re: Gratuitous Cloud Shared Spycams with Mic's in Your Bedroom: Now A Reality

2017-04-29 Thread grarpamp
> More specifically the problem is the software running in their > fucking heads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2BfqDUPL1I

WhatsApp Jacked

2017-04-29 Thread grarpamp
https://it.slashdot.org/story/17/04/29/1617257/encrypted-whatsapp-message-recovered-from-westminster-terrorists-phone A terrorist's WhatsApp message has been decrypted "using techniques that 'cannot be disclosed for security reasons', though 'sources said they now have the technical expertise to r

Re: Gratuitous Cloud Shared Spycams with Mic's in Your Bedroom: Now A Reality

2017-04-29 Thread juan
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:25:36 -0400 grarpamp wrote: > > More specifically the problem is the software running in > > their fucking heads. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2BfqDUPL1I yeah, that sketch is amazing. The whitest kids have lots of very good stuff.

Re: Gratuitous Cloud Shared Spycams with Mic's in Your Bedroom: Now A Reality

2017-04-29 Thread juan
>Well, but the connection between amazonNSA 'course, I meant the connection between amazonNSA and whatever spying device people have in their homes... >...is encrypted with the latest bullshit encryption, the purpose of >that encryption being to only allow amazon-pentagon aka th

This Poitras person is not on the up and up

2017-04-29 Thread Ryan Carboni
This Laura Poitras is apparently famous for being repeatedly searched at airports. Maybe it is as what she says, that she didn't pull a Jane Fonda, but instead she just hung out with a bad crowd in the wrong neighborhood in a warzone. I guess she's right, the government is untrustworthy, unconditi

Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-29 Thread Avinash Sonawane
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > Also, Thunderbird + Enigmail = complete and user friendly GPG support > for webmail accounts, with no time consuming failure prone > work-arounds required. Yes. I have been wanting to use GPG keys in Tunderbird using Enigmail for so long! T

Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-29 Thread Avinash Sonawane
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Greg Newby wrote: > Dear colleagues, Thank you for the reply Greg! > A quick FYI, since I am the current list maintainer: > > 1. This field is present in postings, and could be used to filter, or to > munge or otherwise direct or update the messages you receive

Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-29 Thread Avinash Sonawane
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 11:11 AM, grarpamp wrote: > No, the real standard in use decades before the masses fucked up > the internet is to use a capable mailer and capable filters and conform > yourself to the awesome. Good old days! > If you're getting too much mail, turn it into not much mail w

Re: This Poitras person is not on the up and up

2017-04-29 Thread John Newman
> On Apr 30, 2017, at 12:07 AM, Ryan Carboni wrote: > > This Laura Poitras is apparently famous for being repeatedly searched at > airports. Maybe it is as what she says, that she didn't pull a Jane Fonda, > but instead she just hung out with a bad crowd in the wrong neighborhood in a > warz

Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-29 Thread Avinash Sonawane
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Ben Tasker wrote: > Incidentally, mailpile also satisfies Wow! Thanks for mentioning Mailpile. It looks promising. Completely open source with built-in PGP support! I'll give it a try. But now I'm wondering what other FLOSS mail clients are there which have buil

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-29 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 06:55:25AM -0300, Juan wrote: > qubes garbage is bankrolled by > > "Open Technology Fund (OTF) - a United States > government-funded program of Radio Free Asia," > > https://www.qubes-os.org/partners/ Homogeneity of targets, makes for easier 0-da

Re: This Poitras person is not on the up and up

2017-04-29 Thread Steve Phillips
This Laura Poitras is apparently famous for being repeatedly searched at airports. Laura Poitras is a documentary filmmaker who did such a good job of making it clear of what the human impact of the Iraq war has actually been, and such a good job of humanizing this atrocity, that she was seemin

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-29 Thread Jason McVetta
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Homogeneity of targets, makes for easier 0-day 0wnage of said > targets, when one such target becomes of particular interest. > I, for one, run an OS that I wrote myself in TI-BASIC, on hardware salvaged from the Soviet space program. Th

Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-29 Thread grarpamp
qmail had a shitty license, but it was the shit till world moved on and it went unmaintained. And still probably nobody offers even the obvious basic TLS IPv6 LDAP DKIM etc single clean patch. So people just use postfix. It's not aoki's but cazabon's getmail, it and fdm are junk, at least if until

Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-29 Thread grarpamp
> Of course, that has the disadvantage of (sort of) breaking replies, > because the subject has changed... Yes. Don't impose local solutions publicly upon others. As dumb as adding ten lines of spam scoring junk to your *outbound* mail, only stupid receivers would trust that.

Re: Adding [Cypherpunks] at the beginning of a subject by default

2017-04-29 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:25:14AM +0530, Avinash Sonawane wrote: > On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Ben Tasker wrote: > > > Incidentally, mailpile also satisfies > > Wow! Thanks for mentioning Mailpile. It looks promising. Completely > open source with built-in PGP support! I'll give it a try.

Re: Qubes - more shit from the american pentagon nazis

2017-04-29 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 01:25:38PM +0700, Jason McVetta wrote: > On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > Homogeneity of targets, makes for easier 0-day 0wnage of said > > targets, when one such target becomes of particular interest. > > > > I, for one, run an OS that I wrot