Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-05-03 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, May 04, 2017 at 03:18:03AM +, \0xDynamite wrote: > You know, you guys have given some decent responses. Hey, let's call it "us guys", as in all of us - we're in this world together of course .. > The truth of the matter is that I love the anarchists. I am equally > happy with an

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-05-03 Thread \0xDynamite
You know, you guys have given some decent responses. The truth of the matter is that I love the anarchists. I am equally happy with an Enlightened State (if such could be made) as anarchy, but I can't get settled with either because there's no love from either. So, I cannot allow myself to

defend that female - the biological imperative :)

2017-05-03 Thread Zenaan Harkness
First guy gets a little tail, second guy wants in on the action, first guy loses a couple rounds, then mans up for a true street fight, barrel rolls and all, comes out victorious. Some humans could learn a thing or two..

Re: [CypherPunks] Event Invitation (May 23, 2017 - New York, New York)

2017-05-03 Thread Joshua
We'll it's funded by the same independent economic system that will be described at the event. Anyone can deploy a similar one. Therefore anyone can fund anything using the techniques we're using and best of all this is all openly available and free. Finally the power of economic, government,

Re: [CypherPunks] Event Invitation (May 23, 2017 - New York, New York)

2017-05-03 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Who said the message does not has merit? Why do you say the source of the funding "doesn't matter"? Zenaan Harkness On Wed, May 03, 2017 at 07:09:43PM -0400, Joshua wrote: > It doesn't matter who it's from if the message has merit. > > -movrcx > > Sent from

Re: FBI Director James Comey spouts nonsense yet again.

2017-05-03 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, May 03, 2017 at 10:12:39PM +, jim bell wrote: > http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/politics/comey-wikileaks-journalists-intelligence/index.html > But Sasse nudged Comey to further flesh out the > difference between the mainstream press and WikiLeaks."In my view, > a huge portion of

Re: [CypherPunks] Event Invitation (May 23, 2017 - New York, New York)

2017-05-03 Thread Joshua
It doesn't matter who it's from if the message has merit. -movrcx Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.ch), encrypted email based in Switzerland. Original Message Subject: Re: [CypherPunks] Event Invitation (May 23, 2017 - New York, New York) Local Time: May 3, 2017 6:48

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-05-03 Thread Zenaan Harkness
> gcc (without modules) -> gcc (without plug ins) -> LLVM -> gcc (with plug ins)

Re: [CypherPunks] Event Invitation (May 23, 2017 - New York, New York)

2017-05-03 Thread Zenaan Harkness
No immediate disclosure of who's funding the "free" food and drinks? Bah humbug! On Wed, May 03, 2017 at 11:57:02AM -0400, Joshua wrote: > If you're interested in Bitcoin and are also interested in building out > independent economic systems powered by artificial intelligence or whatever >

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-05-03 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, May 03, 2017 at 03:11:32PM +, \0xDynamite wrote: > >> The solution, then, is a META-state. A system of order bigger and > >> better than the State. > > > > Yes. How could we have missed such an obvious solution. > > Easy tiger. Hopefully, the other posts clarify. Obviously the

FBI Director James Comey spouts nonsense yet again.

2017-05-03 Thread jim bell
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/politics/comey-wikileaks-journalists-intelligence/index.html (CNN)FBI Director James Comey sent a clear message to newsrooms across the country Wednesday: American journalists who receive classified material from sources are not criminals.Comey was specifically

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-05-03 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, May 03, 2017 at 01:27:05PM +, \0xDynamite wrote: > >>That's some good bit o' history. > > It was you who asked the question "Without a State, would we have > > electronics? Radio?" > > Yes and I was being serious. I hadn't encounted that history before. > > >> I was really

Advice, please, any and all accepted

2017-05-03 Thread Schmoo
Hi all, FTP, LTL, PBG! I have had enough of the state of the United Kingdom - not to mention the many other states across, around, and inside the globe some call Earth. Those yet to be formed, and those beginning to form, in the near Earth environment must not be excluded from our development as

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-05-03 Thread jim bell
From: \0xDynamite >>That's some good bit o' history. > It was you who asked the question "Without a State, would we have > electronics?  Radio?" >Yes and I was being serious.  I hadn't encounted that history  And you probably haven't encountered the history of most

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-05-03 Thread juan
On Wed, 3 May 2017 13:27:05 + "\\0xDynamite" wrote: > Just as single-cellular life gave rise > to multi-cellular life, so now you believe in evolution? > a new LEVEL of order was made beyond the cell. > In this sense, you could say all the

[CypherPunks] Event Invitation (May 23, 2017 - New York, New York)

2017-05-03 Thread Joshua
If you're interested in Bitcoin and are also interested in building out independent economic systems powered by artificial intelligence or whatever then you should come. Free food, drinks, and pleasant conversation.

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-05-03 Thread \0xDynamite
>> The solution, then, is a META-state. A system of order bigger and >> better than the State. > > Yes. How could we have missed such an obvious solution. Easy tiger. Hopefully, the other posts clarify. Obviously the State sucks, but it sucks because of THE PEOPLE, don't forget that.

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-05-03 Thread \0xDynamite
>> Yet, they haven't "self-organized" to come together and FIX the >> problem in their own self-interest, have they? So there either is an >> error in the analysis or there is some EXISTENTIALLY OTHER force that >> prevents it that is not of this world --otherwise they would come >> together and

Re: What is the value of the State?

2017-05-03 Thread \0xDynamite
>>That's some good bit o' history. > It was you who asked the question "Without a State, would we have > electronics? Radio?" Yes and I was being serious. I hadn't encounted that history before. >> I was really referring to the level > of existing order needed to create *more* levels of