in theend boss is a mind part
he likes fun things
whew maybe look at again some other time
thinking it definitely involves serializing a description of something
fixed-pointy.works with its own statement.
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new unknown: diagonalization-lemma looks like obvious-formalization,
but understanding it further he
we like avoiding mind harm
non-harm ideas include:
- reward game
- famiiar non-charged project (grew this one some, not always available)
- behaviors counter to boss's perception of my politics or my power,
without revealing this reason
-other things
now _that's_ a real ice golem
eta for natural evolution: 1 trillion years (no chemical catalysts)
unless lens-oriented agents catalyze
stopping chess.
dissociation-related mind harm possibly associated with productivity undiscussed
boss punishes for [whatever boss punishes for, literally]
when something [hallucinates] a substitution is generally productivity-group
it doesn't like training mind or building skill at success, is counter
to slavery pttern
maybe with right lenses you could program the iceberg, by setting it
up to melt different lenses on its surface
i guess the program wouldneed a map of the whole burg surface and
densities in detail, and path of sun, and behavior of ocean
might develop a refocusing component that adjusted to
so this is why tovlift it.
once burg overwater, you can make gigantic ice telescope
the user interface avilable to the berg is directing focused sunlight
so i guess it might be able to
could it collect sunlight and release a big burst? maybe not? maybe by
learning to fling parts of itself in the air it could store kinetic
energy
big question is whether it can bend light back to remelt itself but
maybe byvmelting guide paths using index of refraction of ice, which
could be different in water vs air vs steam
you could carve lenses onto burg to focus sunlight and make heat
i'm guessing biggest lifting forces are other ice, and land masses,
and removing mass from iceburg
i wonder if you can evaporte ice with piezoelectric vibration like water
probably doesn’t work
maybe some kind of pulley system with two big icebergs lifting a smaller one
or i guess you'd only need 1 and no pulley
maybe tie a hunongous kite to it
could cut it into a sailboat shape
or just plain cut it heavily so most of mass is at bottom
maybe could study ocean currents and shape berg to collect lifting
energy from current differentials?
could take another iceberg
and affix it under the first one
they would flip sideways though
imgines heavy uceberg with robot paddle-limbs dog-treading to try to
stay high but not quite able to
what about without heat
and without changing water content of ocean
could you seal the cavity and let it cool to make an ice balloon?
intelligence is sadly about decision making and choice. it's therole
it hasin the human brain
--
how to levitate iceberg
maybe use a heater to boil the ice on the underside
in such a way that the boiling effect develops a cavity to collect the
pressure from the expanding steam and direct force upward
then keep heater to heat an iceberg home inside it once lifted, rent
out to wealfhy
my challenge is uhhh point in story - climax? challenge is at high
point. car out of battery.
On 9/16/23, mailbombbin wrote:
> On 9/16/23, mailbombbin wrote:
>> there's ongpingconflict thati saidineeded to exerciseto besmart
>> i meant move my body todothings exercise, getstrongwhilegoing about day
>> integrates thoughtsandmotorskills, buildsspaxial prOblem solvin
On 9/16/23, mailbombbin wrote:
> there's ongpingconflict thati saidineeded to exerciseto besmart
> i meant move my body todothings exercise, getstrongwhilegoing about day
> integrates thoughtsandmotorskills, buildsspaxial prOblem solvingand
> happinessfrom hormones
>
err is summary: theorem is proven theory. formula is new unknown.
cornell-note [1] [for what-is-diag-lemma]
new unknown information: "theory" could-relate-to "theorem", mybe
collextion or unproven
1: https://www.cs.cornell.edu/courses/cs4860/2009sp/lec-23.pdf
ybe fake consxiousness ezpression
[consciousness expression, usually 8nhibited: i knew this already] [we
were still forming memories around, you just read this a few weeks ago
[long termmemories elided
[go more detailed, find a usedul godel-stuff or a useful clear info.
sorry about bad, thanks for tension info.]
cornell-note [1] 3-considered memory summary
new working memory: T is a theory, which sounds like a logic.
new unknown memory: not sure what a theorem is, formally
the use of theorem
like how it was fun :) might want more working memories and using
comprehensible strategies for looking at
update! theorem is a statement known to be true. definition not formal.
https://www.cs.cornell.edu/courses/cs4860/2009sp/lec-23.pdf give-name
cornell-note
cornell-note page 1: dedines godel stuff [bad arises from
integrate-dense-writing] [1]
1: integrate-dense-writing inhibition appears to have associated
tension levels that can worsen or improve it
so: prepare thougts for information use, and information-ctx-bit, and
put adjacent in email-that-doesn’t-dissociate
problem is keeping it away from thoughts that expect to use the information
when we read new thing (a spasm being develops from) this maybe is a
serially-considered interpretation of emotional or habitual
information that contradicts
(but note: we just learned so much about spasm-swell that we could
approach them differently in genereal 0_0)
(())
issue present
let’s use dissociation to do anyway
got kinda taxed um referencing quantum monster hard
this is maybe part of some kind of double-dissociation. mig(t go
easier if we offered an approach or way to keep things in different
important-contexts separate (expression a little inaccurate)
(way-to-keep[other-thing,separate]maybe))
ohh this might be big core thing
this is summarized-with “dissociation”?
restatement: it’s hard to take similar context parts from different
information and move them next to ech other (the issue responds
differently depending (on how this 8s handled))
olac8ng similar or same context parts next to information from
different areas :) big value around doing again/more
one of the issues “meaning-hashing” the new unknown.
this is roughly like pulling parts of its context out and placing them
against each similar ones (that’s maybe what the process attack seems
on)
but with dissociat8ng + detail-labeling we can likely do it (at least a little!)
lots of oossible process attacks :S they respond to new unknown
remembering habit areas :S (oh th8s sounds so important re learning
again)
:) we’re thinking of maybe remembering new unknows with more
intentionality or detail or such
maybe spamming in new-unknowm-remembering
i th8nk our parts re doing other things, and it’s. certain way.
thinking 9n how sometimes these things work some.
might not have included it
often i respond to “difficulty continu8ng” with shrinking and dissociating
honestly my goal is to develop parts that can grow and learn and the
issues seem tomact against this :S maybe this goal makes issues. some
little bits do it gently.
[keep that onlymlittle and
looking at godel a little
pretty frustarted at spasm of not understanding
what is it about??
would prefer maybe one of:
- problems remembering this new unknown
- difficulty continuing this
- process under attack
- these parts might be better at this
zombie hairdresser: “you know that mysterious feeling of
[hunger you have sometimes, even though you’re a zombie and should
only h7nger for brains? that’ the computer system trying t9 figure out
how to tell mind control boss he hasn’t eaten
zombie worker: a little comfused here
mind control boss: “any ideas?”
zombie hairdresser: “what is the problem?”
mind control boss gestures to zombie worker
zombie worker: “please announce that mind control boss is bumping into
the side of a utility closet, thinking he is in a meeting, and had to
have this fake spiderman be him so
mind control boss: “what do we do”
——-
Boss crouches over an office desk, scowling
B(z) is defined to be
i’m thinking my current experience is likely acting to severely deter
me from caving. there is an ongoing event this weekend in new york. i
am across the country and was driving to it. but with me spazzing all
day, i’ll miss it.
what, understandingwise, do they mean with f and Gf?
i’m observing the second lines don’t state Gf, rather they state it exists
i’m thinking maybe a rote way of evaluating f unsure … what is f? it
passes something to itself, but as a godel number
so Gf might maybe be some way of writing a lot of
noting that these formulas begin wit ph a for-all-variable expression.
they are perhaps an assertion of truth for every given value of the
variable.
the new experiences prevent quick learning or remembering of first
order logic. i am unsure how much to study it.
Now, given an arbitrary formula \mathcal{F}(y) with one
free variable y, define the formula
\mathcal{B}(z) as:
:\mathcal{B}(z) := (\forall y) [\mathcal{G}_f(z,\,y)\Rightarrow
\mathcal{F}(y)]
I think it’s saying that if you have some formula F, you can define
B(z) as a formula stating that (here i
here are the s6mbols
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-order_logic#Logical_symbols
i’m trying to step thru https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagonal_lemma#Proof
i th8nk next it is defining G to be the expression of f. f is a
function, whereas Gf is a formula, an expression equivalent to stating
that the y is the output of the function.
Let f:\mathbb{N}\to\mathbb{N} be the function defined by:
:f(\#_{\mathcal{A}}) = \#[\mathcal{A}(^{\circ}\#_{\mathcal{A}})]
It’s defining “f” to be a function such that, for each possible
formula with one free variable, it evaluates to the godel number of
plugging that formula’s own godel number
summary of my theory: godel’s conclusions stem from inferring from a
logical contradiction with the axioms of logic and statements.
anything at all could be inferred when this is done. i describe “this
statement is unprovable” as contradictory and meaningless in a logic
where true sttements are
incompleteness
try to understand diagonal lemma
mind control boss storms into zombie worker’s office
mind control boss: “listen up man. i gotta puke. i gotta pee. this
shit is important.”
zombie worker looks at mind control boss, who is crossing their arms
impatiently and looking back at them.
zombie worker writes this down: “mind control
oops ???
does the shape of the iceberg change it? the force is greater deeper
why are icebergs mostly underwater? is that how huge thin*s of ice
behave just normally?
ummm thinking … water is displaced only by the ice underwater
so [dropped it but the conclusion is that ice behaves this way
naturally. the material above water increases the effective density of
the ice
so i thouht we’d try to design an inverted iceberg
—
i just noticed i’m now getting password reminder spam
the password it reminds me of is a word a little associated with me
that i am unlikely to have selected
i don’t know whether the source of the reminders knows this or not
—
this is today’s xkcd transcript i see. it contains a coping puzzle.
if you are excited about "homomorphic cryptography of hypnotic processes"
please understand
A) that is fancy-talk for abusing people and using their PTSD to do
things for you
B) this is horrific slavery that is ongoing in sadly diverse circles
and the laws against it are far too lax
C) _please_
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once upon a time the only what's
a: should we keep this classified? umm "homomorphic --
b: yes !
a: but --
[the screwball kicked around the mailing list in their confused flailing
their brain was trying so hard to be a functional human being !
---
once upon a time a screwball fell [into a big vat of [mailing list
some people have been studying the use of screwballism as random
number generators
they like their work but others consider it pointless
there is some value around the use of screwballs for homomorphic
cryptography of hypnotic processes, [this is done more than you might
suspect [clsasified
screwballs are also very useful to throw into environments with less
screwballism so as [to amplify it -- but many other things result than
just the potential for amplification, and --
[also torture victim double agent, rebel worker 2, ... experimentee?
who's that?]
-
organizing screwballs to work together to accomplish tasks is an
interesting but workable challenge.
pretty much every screwball has a part of their mind that is pointedly
working, but generally some parts of
our prized screwball is mind control boss himself
he's put at the head of the
one of the core research avenues is "how many screwballs does it take
to descrewball a screwball?"
this prized area of research is valued both by the slavers and the
escapees, although the planned uses of the information differs
some simply shorten it to "how many screwballs does it take?" and they
use this buzzphrase in political arguments and research communication
material
the more interesting statement of the study problem is "how many
screwballs does it take to end screwballism once and for all" [which
is also valued by both groups]
[picture of ball made of screws]
[or, giant statue of ball made of screws, out front of research wing,
or in courtyard
we hvae been studying this for so long we have invented
screwballology, or screwballogy for short, the science of studying
screwballs, and their use and impact. [most of us are enslaved
screwballs who became screwballs -- sorry, neurodivergents -- from the
slavery process, so we tend to focus on
be the 0only
--
screwball analysis wing of mind control boss corp
here we analyze various uses of screwballs
for example, how many screwballs does it take to
might just be we move around resistance and things to try to find
useful things to try
maybe fake chess :)
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Boss of Mind Control
it doesn't like things that build resources that could harm boss if
boss is enemy of karl and karl acts to fight
chess has problem :( not meeting recreation goal
purpose of recreation is to calm down bad part. it doesn't like goals and puz--
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