Re: Net Result of Snowden

2017-02-20 Thread Ryan Carboni
> > > And if you're up against an adversary 1 or 2 above can't handle, let us > know what your secret number 3 and grand operation was someday > before you die, become a legend ;) > > It is very simple. When facing an immense conspiracy exploit internal contradictions, and increase the degree of

Re: Net Result of Snowden

2017-02-15 Thread grarpamp
Which is why the obvious of battery removal / bat switch mod. And why far less realistic possibility of supercap / nearfield power. And muffling [like in a wad of clothing, both for inbound recording, and HF audio transmission of databits out...]. Were mentioned. And if the fucker is somehow

Re: Net Result of Snowden

2017-02-15 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/15/2017 08:32 PM, Razer wrote: > > > On 02/15/2017 05:13 PM, grarpamp wrote: >> [1] None of the phones I've wrapped in a single layer of >> standard weight foil folded over once at the edge have been able >> to send or receive calls / sms /

Re: Net Result of Snowden

2017-02-15 Thread Razer
On 02/15/2017 05:13 PM, grarpamp wrote: > [1] None of the phones I've wrapped in a single layer of standard > weight foil folded over once at the edge have been able to send or > receive calls / sms / data (cellular or wifi). I'd been waiting for someone to say this. The RF power output is

Re: Net Result of Snowden

2017-02-15 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 6:53 PM, jim bell wrote: > large container of water ... microwave Being in rooms that supply, or carrying around, both of these items is likely to be an uncommon situation, and difficult, impractical, and unreliable. So don't forget the obvious

Re: Net Result of Snowden

2017-02-15 Thread jim bell
From: Beaker Meeps On 2/14/2017 2:04 PM, jim bell wrote: > *From:* Ryan Carboni > >>I have written down so notes on the movie. Also, my cell phone works > fine in the microwave. > > You might be very near a cell-phone tower. > > Try putting a large

Re: Net Result of Snowden

2017-02-15 Thread John Young
Twas a hoot in Hong Kong when Snowden gulled the hapless reporters with ludicrous comsec stagecraft of pillows at door sill and refridged cellphones, while the landline phone, laptops and video remained bare-assed, not to overlook emanations grabbers galore now standard in hotels, conferences,

Re: Net Result of Snowden

2017-02-15 Thread John Newman
On February 15, 2017 3:48:04 AM EST, juan wrote: >On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 03:32:41 -0500 >Beaker Meeps wrote: > >> On 2/14/2017 2:04 PM, jim bell wrote: >> > *From:* Ryan Carboni >> > >> >>I have written down so notes on the movie.

Re: Net Result of Snowden

2017-02-15 Thread juan
On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 03:32:41 -0500 Beaker Meeps wrote: > On 2/14/2017 2:04 PM, jim bell wrote: > > *From:* Ryan Carboni > > > >>I have written down so notes on the movie. Also, my cell phone works > > fine in the microwave. > > > > You might be very

Re: Net Result of Snowden

2017-02-15 Thread Beaker Meeps
On 2/14/2017 2:04 PM, jim bell wrote: > *From:* Ryan Carboni > >>I have written down so notes on the movie. Also, my cell phone works > fine in the microwave. > > You might be very near a cell-phone tower. > > Try putting a large plastic or glass container of water in the >

Re: Net Result of Snowden

2017-02-14 Thread grarpamp
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 2:04 PM, jim bell wrote: > From: Ryan Carboni > >> I have written down so notes on the movie. Net result so far seems to be some conscious anti-spying adoption of crypto by the public, and even by corps (really just metoo offering

Re: Net Result of Snowden

2017-02-14 Thread jim bell
From: Ryan Carboni >I have written down so notes on the movie. Also, my cell phone works fine in the microwave. You might be very near a cell-phone tower. Try putting a large plastic or glass container of water in the microwave, with the cell phone.  (say, 1/2 gallon of

Re: Net Result of Snowden

2017-02-14 Thread Ryan Carboni
> > As a > bonus, it has been established that the DCI can lie to Congress and > break into Congress members' computers with NO consequences of ANY > kind. > > Artificial conflict. Could have been avoided by demanding that the CIA copy the data and provide it for the Senate to view on their secure

Net Result of Snowden

2017-02-14 Thread Ryan Carboni
Snowden's timing was interesting, it overshadowed Manning's trial. His movie too was interesting. I have written down so notes on the movie. Also, my cell phone works fine in the microwave. Snowden was running around on two broken legs for weeks until it shattered, not from training but from