Own on install. How grave it is?

2018-01-09 Thread Georgi Guninski
This is well known, haven't seen it discussed. In short doing clean install (factory defaults) has a window of opportunity when the device is vulnerable to a known network attack. It used to be common sense to reinstall after compromise (probably doesn't apply to the windows world where the antiv

Re: Own on install. How grave it is?

2018-01-11 Thread Kirils Solovjovs
The concerns are real and industry resolves this by applying the minimal required patches from a media before connecting device to the network. K. On 2018.01.09. 12:20, Georgi Guninski wrote: This is well known, haven't seen it discussed. In short doing clean install (factory defaults) has

Re: Own on install. How grave it is?

2018-01-11 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 11:54:00AM +0200, Kirils Solovjovs wrote: > > The concerns are real and industry resolves this by applying the minimal > required patches from a media before connecting device to the network. > Thanks. This doesn't appear possible on smartphones, tablets and some IoT, righ

Re: Own on install. How grave it is?

2018-01-11 Thread g2s
Original message From: Georgi Guninski Date: 1/11/18 4:52 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Kirils Solovjovs Cc: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Own on install. How grave it is? On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 11:54:00AM +0200, Kirils Solovjovs wrote: > > The concerns are re

Re: Own on install. How grave it is?

2018-01-11 Thread John Newman
On January 11, 2018 4:54:00 AM EST, Kirils Solovjovs wrote: > >The concerns are real and industry resolves this by applying the >minimal >required patches from a media before connecting device to the network. > >K. > Or keeping a "golden image" which is kept up to date and cloned as needed

Re: Own on install. How grave it is?

2018-01-11 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 08:43:27AM -0800, g2s wrote: > > The concerns are real and industry resolves this by applying the minimal > > required patches from a media before connecting device to the network. > > > > >> Thanks. This doesn't appear possible on smartphones, tablets and some IoT, > >> r

Re: Own on install. How grave it is?

2018-01-12 Thread g2s
Original message From: Georgi Guninski Date: 1/11/18 11:40 PM (GMT-08:00) To: g2s Cc: Kirils Solovjovs , cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Own on install. How grave it is? On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 08:43:27AM -0800, g2s wrote: > > The concerns are real and in