Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-06-29 Thread grarpamp
Satoshi is estimated to have at least 1M BTC to leverage at will, anon, with zfg. Any disagreeable fork can be tranflooded back to self and even whaled around for years to come. With agreeable things endorsed and supported similarly. Satoshi has been moved to arise from silence before. Do not tempt

Re: Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-01 Thread Kurt Buff
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 12:15 PM, grarpamp wrote: > Satoshi is estimated to have at least 1M BTC to leverage at > will, anon, with zfg. Any disagreeable fork can be tranflooded > back to self and even whaled around for years to come. > With agreeable things endorsed and supported similarly. > Sato

Re: Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-01 Thread grarpamp
On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > https://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n13/andrew-ohagan/the-satoshi-affair "The full text of this essay is only available to subscribers of the London Review of Books." Needs liberated by punks using the schwartz...

Re: Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-01 Thread juan
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 16:26:04 -0400 grarpamp wrote: > On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Kurt Buff > wrote: > > https://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n13/andrew-ohagan/the-satoshi-affair > > "The full text of this essay is only available to subscribers of the > London Review of Books." > Needs liberated by

Re: Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-01 Thread juan
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 15:15:59 -0400 grarpamp wrote: > Satoshi is estimated to have at least 1M BTC to leverage at > will, official story is that 'some' of the keys from early blocks are 'lost' but who knows if that's true...

Re: Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-01 Thread J.R. Jones
On Sat, Jul 1, 2017, 17:03 juan wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 15:15:59 -0400 > grarpamp wrote: > > > Satoshi is estimated to have at least 1M BTC to leverage at > > will, > > official story is that 'some' of the keys from early blocks are > 'lost' but who knows if that's true... >

Re: Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-01 Thread juan
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 22:38:44 + "J.R. Jones" wrote: > On Sat, Jul 1, 2017, 17:03 juan wrote: > > > On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 15:15:59 -0400 > > grarpamp wrote: > > > > > Satoshi is estimated to have at least 1M BTC to leverage at > > > will, > > > > official story is that 'some' of the ke

Re: Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-01 Thread grarpamp
On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 8:08 PM, juan wrote: >> > official story is that 'some' of the keys from early blocks >> > are 'lost' but who knows if that's true... Depends on who the "official" is and what proof they have. >>Shoot, what about Mt Gox, the value of those coins must be BILLIONS >

Re: [Cryptography] Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-06-30 Thread John Newman
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 03:15:59PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > Satoshi is estimated to have at least 1M BTC to leverage at > will, anon, with zfg. Any disagreeable fork can be tranflooded > back to self and even whaled around for years to come. > With agreeable things endorsed and supported similarly.

Re: [Cryptography] Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-01 Thread grarpamp
> Please don't spam this mailing list with word salad proclamations. On the contary... In "trusted" / distributed cryptographic systems, especially digital currencies, the issues of things like witheld keys, founders BDFL influence, premining, early miners, ICO raison, DAO / voting rulesets, poss

Re: [Cryptography] Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-01 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Erik Granger wrote: > That seems like a losing battle, if he decides to transflood the chain, > can't the fork simply ignore that chain? No idea what that means. Anyway... Keys (UTXO / addrs) from parent inherit spendably into both forks (cross referencing to for

Re: [Cryptography] Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-01 Thread grarpamp
> As before, rich activsts will have two chains to play in... Analyses link to show potential exist of plural actors... https://btc.com/stats/rich-list

Re: [Cryptography] Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-01 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 05:36:05AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > > As before, rich activsts will have two chains to play in... > > Analyses link to show potential exist of plural actors... > https://btc.com/stats/rich-list This is going to be the greatest wealth transfer in history, from each, accordi

Re: [Cryptography] Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-01 Thread grarpamp
> This is going to be the greatest wealth transfer in history, > from each, according to hir gullibility, to each, according to > hir ability to understand crypto and control market demand. Part of the crypto revolution... and what crypto-anarchist would not love to lure and transfer gullible stat

Re: [Cryptography] Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-02 Thread grarpamp
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Ray Dillinger wrote: > What puzzles me about these discussions is that people assume, with no > evidence and apparently for no reason, that Satoshi would choose to play > his (or her, or their) so-called "Trump Card" in some way that agrees > with their own particul

Re: [Cryptography] LRB article, Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-02 Thread grarpamp
>>> https://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n13/andrew-ohagan/the-satoshi-affair >> >>"The full text of this essay is only available to subscribers of the >>London Review of Books." >> >>Needs liberated by punks using the schwartz... On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 1:25 PM, John Levine wrote: > Well, you know, you cou

Re: [Cryptography] actual journalism, was LRB article, Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-02 Thread grarpamp
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 5:37 PM, John Levine wrote: >>Then maybe some combination of them could earn some crypto coin. > > Having looked at the articles the author wrote before and after the > pair he wrote last year on the Craig Wright affair Didn't notice a pair, unless this video makes the firs

Re: [Cryptography] actual journalism, was LRB article, Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-02 Thread James A. Donald
On 03/07/2017 7:28 AM, grarpamp wrote: Yes they're "scams" in that hardly any of the more than hundreds of effectively cloned coins out there are bringing any substantial new developments or combinations of capabilities that will cause them to float to a top ten position long term. The coin to

Re: [Cryptography] actual journalism, was LRB article, Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-03 Thread James A. Donald
On 03/07/2017 4:31 PM, Ben Laurie wrote: Confused by this - Merkle trees inherently don't grow to enormous depth. The bitcoin hash chain grows to enormous depth, and arguably it is a Merkle tree that testifies to all transactions everywhere that ever taken place in bitcoin. If you say it is

Re: [Cryptography] actual journalism, was LRB article, Satoshi's Trump Card

2017-07-03 Thread James A. Donald
Confused by this - Merkle trees inherently don't grow to enormous depth. I am pretty sure that if I give a definition and say "A Merkle tree is such and such", a bikeshed war will ensue over my definition of Merkle tree, which war will probably result in Perry blocking my posts. So let me de