Re: UK: Censors, Tracks and Balkanizes Its Internet; 10yrs for Pirates

2016-09-15 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/14/16 11:11 PM, oshwm wrote: > The UK Gov has spent two generations indoctrinating people right from birth > that privacy is only for bad people, big corporations > will look after them, gov dependency is a good thing, debt is a good thing, > politics is of no interest and too complicated

Re: UK: Censors, Tracks and Balkanizes Its Internet; 10yrs for Pirates

2016-09-15 Thread oshwm
The UK Gov has spent two generations indoctrinating people right from birth that privacy is only for bad people, big corporations will look after them, gov dependency is a good thing, debt is a good thing, politics is of no interest and too complicated for them etc etc Only subversive types

Re: UK: Censors, Tracks and Balkanizes Its Internet; 10yrs for Pirates

2016-09-14 Thread grarpamp
The 90's was simple existance, not the depth of mass application. If people think the 90's was the last fight, or a big fight, or some kind of defining success, it's suggested they're terribly mistaken. The application is causing govt's and useless legacy power structures worldwide to lose some

Re: UK: Censors, Tracks and Balkanizes Its Internet; 10yrs for Pirates

2016-09-14 Thread Stephen D. Williams
Although they can work to coopt and compromise in various ways, there are legal limits to control of crypto and security in the US. That's what all the fights in the 90's were about. We've seen that ATT and Microsoft seem to easily turn over, or enable to be turned over, access to everyone's

Re: UK: Censors, Tracks and Balkanizes Its Internet; 10yrs for Pirates

2016-09-14 Thread Sean Lynch
One step closer to everyone ceasing to pretend the Internet is in any way free or democratic. It was a nice fantasy while it lasted. Even where ISPs are nominally private, you can't be a licensed user of the airwaves or have fiber along government right-of-ways and expect not to have the