Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-20 Thread jamesd
On 2020-10-21 07:10, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > > I'll be waiting for any actual 'cypherpunk' or libertarian to shred > donalds 'philosophy' to pieces. I think I'm going to wait a looong time. The libertarian justification for controls on recreational drug use is that drug abuse, vic

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 03:28:04PM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote: > We do not in fact have equality before the law, because actual equality > before the law leads to intolerable consequences, because individuals, > groups, and communities are not in fact equal, and require different laws. Thank

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 04:07:27AM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 15:28:04 +1000 > jam...@echeque.com wrote: > > > On 2020-10-21 07:10, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > > > > > > I'll be waiting for any actual 'cypherpunk' or libertarian to shred > > > donalds 'philo

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread jim bell
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 10:37:07 PM PDT, jam...@echeque.com wrote: On 2020-10-21 07:10, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:   >     I'll be waiting for any actual 'cypherpunk' or libertarian to shred > donalds 'philosophy' to pieces. I think I'm going to wait a looong time. [snip] >We do n

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread \0xDynamite
> > We do not in fact have equality before the law, because actual equality > > before the law leads to intolerable consequences, because individuals, > > groups, and communities are not in fact equal, and require different laws. No, this is handled by having multiple levels of jurisdiction, pushi

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 07:23:19PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > > me: > > >>>     I'll be waiting for any actual 'cypherpunk' or libertarian to shred > > >>> donalds 'philosophy' to pieces. I think I'm going to wait a looong > > >>> time. > > > > donald: > > >> We do not in fact have

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 10:53:30AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 07:23:19PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > > > me: > > > >>>     I'll be waiting for any actual 'cypherpunk' or libertarian to > > > >>> shred donalds 'philosophy' to pieces. I think I'm going to wait

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread jamesd
> > I was simply pointing out how some people resist the idea of having > > different laws for different people, Bat Soup: > yes, the people who 'resist' that idea are the libertarians. > So what point are you trying to make, exactly? You redefine libertarianism as progressivism. You a

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread jamesd
On 2020-10-22 05:05, jim bell wrote: > On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 10:37:07 PM PDT, jam...@echeque.com > wrote: > > On 2020-10-21 07:10, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: >   >>     I'll be waiting for any actual 'cypherpunk' or libertarian to shred >> donalds 'philosophy' to pieces. I think I

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 09:42:46PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 10:17:09 +1000 > jam...@echeque.com wrote: > > > > The libertarian position on law is that there should be more private law > > and less state law, > > no, that's the conservative/fascist/fake li

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 08:41:11PM -0500, John Newman wrote: > > > On Oct 21, 2020, at 19:35, jam...@echeque.com wrote: > > > > I am pretty sure the great majority of blacks would inwardly want a gun > > law specifically on blacks such as Bloomberg proposed, and a lot of them > > would be so poli

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 10:39:19PM -0500, John Newman wrote: > > > On Oct 21, 2020, at 21:25, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 08:41:11PM -0500, John Newman wrote: > >> > >>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 19:35, jam...@echeque.com wrote: > >>> > >>> I am pretty sure the great major

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread jamesd
On 2020-10-22 11:41, John Newman wrote: >> The majority of blacks favor laws on crack cocaine that clearly have, >> and are clearly intended to have, disparate impact, and native Americans >> support laws on alcohol that are barely wearing a fig leaf to disguise >> their racial character. > Do you

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread jamesd
On 2020-10-22 11:41, John Newman wrote: > Maybe you can find a high-dollar hooker, James, or a few of them, > that will let you play out your fantasy of life in the Maghreb 1200 > years ago. Somehow I doubt even this would make you happy. You don't > seem the type for happiness. Every happy succes

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread jamesd
On 2020-10-22 13:39, John Newman wrote: > The differences between the sexes, Z*vomit*, does not mean one (the male, of > which you > at least pretend to be a member) should continue to rape, beat, murder, and > otherwise > do what the fuck ever Women really don't like consent culture, and it is

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-21 Thread John Newman
> On Oct 21, 2020, at 19:35, jam...@echeque.com wrote: > > I am pretty sure the great majority of blacks would inwardly want a gun > law specifically on blacks such as Bloomberg proposed, and a lot of them > would be so politically incorrect as to outwardly favor it. > I'm pretty sure you are b

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 03:54:36AM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:54:12 +1100 > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > You cannot nurture IQ into existence - > > 'IQ' is pseudo scientific bullshit. The fundamental fact is that > morality has fuck to do with being cle

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-22 Thread John Newman
> On Oct 21, 2020, at 21:25, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 08:41:11PM -0500, John Newman wrote: >> >>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 19:35, jam...@echeque.com wrote: >>> >>> I am pretty sure the great majority of blacks would inwardly want a gun >>> law specifically on blacks such a

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 05:06:10AM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 18:08:07 +1100 > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 03:54:36AM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > > > On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:54:12 +1100 > > > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > > > >

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 04:04:35PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 19:33:18 +1100 > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > > > > > skin color is completely irrelevant for morality/politics, just like > > > 'IQ'. > > > > > > Keep arguing an unrelated point I see :) > >

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 09:37:48PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > The concept of 'race' is .. useless for any serious discussion about > politics. Your position that IQ is useless to any serious discussion about politics, is in dispute. > Now, by pretending to discuss 'race

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-24 Thread jamesd
On 2020-10-22 18:06, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > skin color is completely irrelevant for morality/politics, just like > 'IQ'. What is moral depends on one's reasonable and realistic predictions of other people's behavior. For example under some circumstances it is right to kill a stran

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-24 Thread jamesd
On 2020-10-23 10:37, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > Sorry I don't care about your racist nonsense. The concept of 'race' is > based on some irrelevant traits like skin color and details about shape, and > it's useless for any serious discussion about politics. Except of course for > KKK m

Rhesus aerials -- Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

2020-10-25 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 04:25:51PM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote: > On 2020-10-23 10:37, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > > Sorry I don't care about your racist nonsense. The concept of 'race' is > > based on some irrelevant traits like skin color and details about shape, > > and it's useles