Re: Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool

2003-07-07 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:45 AM 7/7/03 -0700, alan wrote: >But the real issue is that all of these DRM methods rely on "security by >obscurity". Such methods eventually fail. Either the actual method is >discovered and published or the DRM method fails in the marketplace and is >never heard from again. Hilary R an

Re: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckolding ignored

2003-07-07 Thread Stormwalker
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Tim May wrote: > > I have to disagree here. Medical insurance is not the same as life > > or car insurance. It was all supposed to be a big pool that we would > > draw on when needed. By skimmimng the cream, infant mortality rates > > rise, along with a host of other pro

Re: Denver Post article on mattd/proffr/AP/Jim Bell/cypherpunks

2003-07-07 Thread Steve Furlong
On Monday 07 July 2003 19:58, Tyler Durden wrote: > >"The bottom line is what the victim feels," he said. "Is the victim > >threatened? Is the victim alarmed? >Hey, that's a crime." > > Interesting logic here. Someone writes something not-so-nice about > somebody on a list and now that person is b

Re: Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool

2003-07-07 Thread Steve Schear
At 07:30 2003-07-07 +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote: This is only for the minimal forms of "protection" which are designed to work with existing CD/DVD players. If you look at the new audio formats like SACD, they use encrypted data. All your lasers won't do you any good unless you can pry a key (and

Re: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckolding ignored

2003-07-07 Thread Steve Furlong
On Monday 07 July 2003 22:03, Neil Johnson wrote: > ... Which makes more sense: Spend > $X dollars on some 80 year old's heart/lung transplant so he can live > another 10 years, or spend that money on make sure an unwed mother's > baby is born healthy? That's easy: spend it on the 80-year-old. H

Re: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckolding ignored

2003-07-07 Thread Stormwalker
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > At 01:15 PM 7/7/03 -0400, Stormwalker wrote: > >On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > >> Interesting, thanks. Even a brother's daughter could be refused. > > > > The BRCA genes are only transmitted through the mother, but > > there are

Re: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckolding ignored

2003-07-07 Thread Neil Johnson
On Monday 07 July 2003 07:53 pm, Stormwalker wrote: > >Medical insurance is about maintenence of our lives. You do not >need to participate, but I'll bet if you get hurt, you'll head >to the nearest emergency room. The pool I speak of is simply that >I may need the services now and

Re: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckolding ignored

2003-07-07 Thread Billy
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 11:51:39AM -0700, Tim May wrote: > And if I know I am not engaging in queer sex > or IV drug use, why would I pay for AIDS coverage/ You've got to be kidding...

Denver Post article on mattd/proffr/AP/Jim Bell/cypherpunks

2003-07-07 Thread Declan McCullagh
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~1497971,00.html .. The development of digital money, and encryption software restricting government's ability to monitor Internet activity, are common goals among the online anarchists and libertarians known as "cypherpunks." The ultimate purpose

Genetic engineering [was: RE: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckol ding ignored]

2003-07-07 Thread Trei, Peter
> Major Variola (ret)[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > What's wrong with voluntary eugenics? The invention of > agriculture started a policy of negative eugenics that culminates > with the industrial welfare state paying stupids to breed, while > others chose birth control. And banning soma

Re: Genetic engineering [was: RE: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckol ding ignored]

2003-07-07 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 03:59 PM 7/7/03 -0400, Trei, Peter wrote: >There are some things where nearly everyone will agree >a genetic fix is desirable - for example, suceptibility to >heart disease, cancer, dental caries, and myopia. Other >'vanity' fixes seem pretty harmless - being tall, busty, >or having a well-stuff

Re: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckolding ignored

2003-07-07 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 01:15 PM 7/7/03 -0400, Stormwalker wrote: >On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: >> Interesting, thanks. Even a brother's daughter could be refused. > > The BRCA genes are only transmitted through the mother, but > there are many others that go through both lines. Could you explain

Re: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckolding ignored

2003-07-07 Thread Tim May
On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 10:15 AM, Stormwalker wrote: On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Insurance companies are private entities, so IMHO its moral for them to gather intel (eg, checking blood for nicotine metabolites), or give discounts for folks who've had certain inherited dis

Re: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckolding ignored

2003-07-07 Thread Stormwalker
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > Interesting, thanks. Even a brother's daughter could be refused. The BRCA genes are only transmitted through the mother, but there are many others that go through both lines. > >Ethical issues have surfaced around the desire of the subject's

Re: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckolding ignored

2003-07-07 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:25 AM 7/7/03 -0400, Stormwalker wrote: >The issue of knowing about other people based on one subject's DNA >has been known for for several years. For example, if a a woman >has the BRCA1 or BRCA2 gene (breast cancer), then so does her mother, >sister(s) and daughter(s) because the gene is her

Re: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckolding ignored

2003-07-07 Thread Stormwalker
The issue of knowing about other people based on one subject's DNA has been known for for several years. For example, if a a woman has the BRCA1 or BRCA2 gene (breast cancer), then so does her mother, sister(s) and daughter(s) because the gene is hereditary. Insurance companies can/have refused ins

Re: Finding collision resistant hash functions

2003-07-07 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 02:19 AM 7/7/03 -0700, Sarad AV wrote: or how are we supposed to >find collision free hash functions?What exactly is the >difficulty in finding collision free hash functions? Because there are no collision *free* hash functions, there will always be several domain elements that map to the same

Secret nanotech spy agency meeting

2003-07-07 Thread Declan McCullagh
today... TECHNOLOGY National Academies Meeting of the Committee on Nanotechnology for the Intelligence Community. Closed session summary posted after the meeting Location: Keck Center of the National Academies, 500 5th St., NW, Washington, D.C.. Contact: James Killian, 202-334-1758; http://www

Re: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckolding ignored

2003-07-07 Thread Ben Laurie
Major Variola (ret.) wrote: > Slashdot pointed to this story of a man indicted via > his *relative's* DNA sample: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/3044282.stm > > But an interesting, unmentioned issue is this: in population > DNA surveys you find that a lot of purported fathers *aren

Re: Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool

2003-07-07 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 02:33 AM 7/7/03 +0300, Sampo Syreeni wrote: >On 2003-07-06, Major Variola (ret) uttered to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >>There's a good reason why, viz: it would cost the drive developer to >>allow or export this flexibility. > >I'd guess either because of a) terminal stupidity or b) benefits to scale

Re: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckolding ignored

2003-07-07 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 11:58 AM 7/7/03 +0100, Ben Laurie wrote: >Major Variola (ret.) wrote: >> So the possibility of indicting a cuckolded man on the basis >> of nominal (only) relatives is quite real. > >Only he was convicted because he confessed. Yes, of course, in this *particular* case. Which is irrelevent. Th

Re: Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool

2003-07-07 Thread Nomen Nescio
Thomas Shaddup writes: > As a welcomed side effect, not only we'd get a device for circumvention of > just about any contemporary (and possibly a good deal of the future ones) > optical media "protections" This is only for the minimal forms of "protection" which are designed to work with existing