RE: Digicash Patents

2003-08-05 Thread Lucky Green
Tim wrote: > Some people expected a "land rush" when the main RSA patents expired > several years ago. Parties were even thrown. The land rush never > happened. Just a reminder that there will be a Blind Signature Patent Expiry party at my place the Saturday before the blind signature patent exp

Re: Digicash Patents

2003-08-03 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 3 Aug 2003 at 0:34, Bill Stewart wrote: > Paypal gave people who wanted to occasionally sell things on > the net a way to receive payments online, quasi-immediately, > without going to the major hassle of becoming a registered > credit-card-accepting business, There is a big problem in

Re: Digicash Patents

2003-08-03 Thread Bill Stewart
At 10:19 PM 07/31/2003 -0500, Mac Norton wrote: I'm not sure that Paypal has met the needs of any enduser yet, so I'd question whether it "succeeded." Huh? Paypal was wildly successful at meeting the perceived needs of end users. Whether it met the needs of stockholders before EBay bought it is a

Re: Digicash Patents, patent-expiry landrushes

2003-08-01 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > I'll predict a similarly invisible "land rush" when ECC patents run out, > assuming > that its patented and also considered useful when the supposed patents > expire. the major one is hardware, and it expires in april 2005. A minor one is MQV, and

Re: Digicash Patents, patent-expiry landrushes

2003-08-01 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 11:34 AM 7/31/03 -0700, Tim May wrote: >Some people expected a "land rush" when the main RSA patents expired >several years ago. Parties were even thrown. The land rush never >happened. Wrong. RSA algorithm is used freely now in US designs, knowing it is no longer patented. I didn't go to any

Re: Digicash Patents

2003-08-01 Thread Mac Norton
ursday, July 31, 2003 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Digicash Patents PayPal apparently met the needs of its customers, which was for a low-tech, low-security, no anonymity online payment system. While I'm not saying I predicted it, neither is it surprising that something like

Re: Digicash Patents

2003-07-31 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 11:34 AM -0700 7/31/03, Tim May wrote: >Some people expected a "land rush" when the main RSA patents expired >several years ago. Parties were even thrown. The land rush never >happened. True enough. Of course, there wasn't much land to rush after, it seems, between the minuscule and easily

RE: Digicash Patents

2003-07-31 Thread Bill Stewart
Tim replied to Bob - > > On the other other hand, :-), it's entirely clear that people could be > > developing code right now in anticipation of the patent expiration and > > go live with some kind of land rush when it's possible to do so. > > Some people expected a "land rush" when the main RSA pa

Re: Digicash Patents

2003-07-31 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 12:18 PM, Patrick wrote: On the other other hand, :-), it's entirely clear that people could be developing code right now in anticipation of the patent expiration and go live with some kind of land rush when it's possible to do so. Some people expected a "land rush"

RE: Digicash Patents

2003-07-31 Thread Patrick
> > On the other other hand, :-), it's entirely clear that people could be > > developing code right now in anticipation of the patent expiration and > > go live with some kind of land rush when it's possible to do so. > > Some people expected a "land rush" when the main RSA patents expired > seve

Re: Digicash Patents

2003-07-31 Thread R. A. Hettinga
he US, among other things, but they bought the original Digicash patents as a way to get at an authentication technology they were paying Infospace to use already, and a business that Infospace, in the middle of its own litigation circus, wanted out of, offering it to its two biggest customers,

Re: Digicash Patents

2003-07-31 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 10:44 AM, R. A. Hettinga wrote: Since lots of the important bits are supposed to expire next year, the patents may or may not be useful. On the other hand, if they can be gotten clear, someone could get a running start, I suppose, especially if they made a partner

Digicash Patents

2003-07-30 Thread R. A. Hettinga
--- begin forwarded text Status: U Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:19:39 -0700 Subject: Digicash Patents From: YALB (Yet Amother Little Bird :-)) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hettinga) Take my name off this if you forward it please. A little bird told me that the Chaum e-cash patent portfolio is