Googling on (event data recorders automobiles) will give a lot
of hits.
For example:
http://wpoplin.com/EventDataRecordersAutomotiveBlackBoxes.pdf
These devices are a byproduct of the introduction of
airbags - the airbag processor stores the data which led it to
deploy the bag.
This can
On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 05:17 AM, Adam Shostack wrote:
I wasn't arguing, I was quipping.
I find the many meanings of the word privacy to be fascinating. So
when someone commented that the car's tattle-box is or isn't a privacy
invasion, I thought I'd offer up a definition under which it
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Steve Schear wrote:
Indeed 'privacy' and 'secrecy' are often confused and their meanings
overlap in many a mind. I think that most, at least in the West, accept
that privacy ..is based on rules and trust, for example, records kept on
us by our doctors. Because
At 11:45 2003-06-18 -0500, Jamie Lawrence wrote:
Anonymity (strong or not) is vastly important to secrecy.
Medical data is a great example of this. It may be private, for some
(weak) values of private, right now. Being John Doe at the doctor's
office and paying cash, though, is vastly better in
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 09:11:58AM -0700, Tim May wrote:
| On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 05:17 AM, Adam Shostack wrote:
|
| I wasn't arguing, I was quipping.
|
| I find the many meanings of the word privacy to be fascinating. So
| when someone commented that the car's tattle-box is or isn't
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Tim May wrote:
Unlikely. Getting juice into the innards of a box in a way so as to
overwrite data is not nearly so simply as applying sparky things to the
outside of the box. Lots of reasons for this.
The idea wasn't about overwriting the data. The idea was about frying
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, jburnes wrote:
Why go to all that trouble. Just take it out of circuit. Cut the
printed circuit
board leads and disable it or if its in an inaccessible black box, cut
the
leads to the box.
Easy enough.
Works very nicely. :)
Problem: leaves evidence, and takes time.
Now, I don't know how subpeoned phone or other
electronic records are handled ---has anyone ever
questioned Telco's or paging company recordkeeping?
Any readers know more?
I work as a programmer at a company that writes software to handle
switch functions and bill cellular and gsm customers.
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 05:11:57PM -0400, John Kelsey wrote:
...
It seems intuitively like the EDR ought to be about as valuable to the
defense as the prosecution, right? E.g., the prosecutor says this guy was
driving 120 miles an hour down the road while being pursued by the police,
but
At 11:16 AM 6/16/03 -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
..
I personally find the privacy implications of EDRs rather unsettling.
This story doesn't change that one bit. However, in this particular
case, I don't think what the EDR said really matters. The three
paragraphs from the story say a lot about
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