Re: Technological Solution

2001-05-01 Thread David Honig
At 06:32 PM 4/28/01 -0700, Tim May wrote: >People don't need to spend several months wading through cryptography >textbooks to come up to a level that is sufficient to understand the >real issues.) > > >--Tim May In fact, crypto textbooks will teach you about the tensile strength of steel, but

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-30 Thread Faustine
At 3:28 PM -0400 4/30/01, Faustine wrote: >Quoting Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> At 6:32 PM -0700 4/28/01, Tim May wrote: >> > >> >(You see, the "quick review" process is much better than the method >> >you suggested re: economics, that people read the main textbooks. >> >People don't

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-30 Thread Tim May
At 3:28 PM -0400 4/30/01, Faustine wrote: >Quoting Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> At 6:32 PM -0700 4/28/01, Tim May wrote: >> > >> >(You see, the "quick review" process is much better than the method >> >you suggested re: economics, that people read the main textbooks. >> >People don't

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-30 Thread Faustine
Quoting Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > At 6:32 PM -0700 4/28/01, Tim May wrote: > > > >(You see, the "quick review" process is much better than the method > >you suggested re: economics, that people read the main textbooks. > >People don't need to spend several months wading through > >cryp

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-29 Thread Tim May
At 2:24 PM -0500 4/28/01, Aimee Farr wrote: >Reading the IMC gag order, Henson, the latest anonymous poster stuff, and >Tim et. al. beating my head in pavement > >Since many forums don't allow for 'nymity, (or people just don't), what >about a protected/offshore self-destruct quicktopic-like s

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-29 Thread Tim May
At 6:32 PM -0700 4/28/01, Tim May wrote: > >(You see, the "quick review" process is much better than the method >you suggested re: economics, that people read the main textbooks. >People don't need to spend several months wading through >cryptography textbooks to come up to a level that is suff

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-29 Thread John Young
Tim May wrote: >None of the non-cryptographic methods are very resistant to legal, >technical, sniffing, and black bag attacks. And only multiply-chained >encrypted-at-each-stage messages, a la remailers, are adequate for >high-value messages. Those who've read it know that Jim Bamford's "Bod

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-29 Thread Tim May
At 11:22 PM -0400 4/28/01, Declan McCullagh wrote: >On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 06:32:08PM -0700, Tim May wrote: >> None of the non-cryptographic methods are very resistant to legal, >> technical, sniffing, and black bag attacks. And only multiply-chained >> encrypted-at-each-stage messages, a la r

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-28 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 08:49:43PM -0700, Tim May wrote: > Well, better than nothing. (Like I said in another article tonight, > "the best is often the enemy of the good.") We knew even in 1992 that > "remailers" were a pale imitation of the DC Nets discussed a few > years earlier by Chaum and

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-28 Thread dmolnar
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > If only they worked. There was an interesting paper presented here > in Pittsburgh at the info hiding workshop this week that suggested > a way to strengthen the somewhat-suckful mixmaster network. (Of That would be "A Reputation System To Increa

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-28 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 06:32:08PM -0700, Tim May wrote: > None of the non-cryptographic methods are very resistant to legal, > technical, sniffing, and black bag attacks. And only multiply-chained > encrypted-at-each-stage messages, a la remailers, are adequate for > high-value messages. If o

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-28 Thread Tim May
At 10:09 PM -0400 4/28/01, John Young wrote: > >Finally, reading the NYT account of Kerry's team killing the >Vietnamese is sobering. The article is much more disturbing >than accounts of it have portrayed. Kerry's and other killers' >spin over the years have induced an intolerance for reading >th

RE: Technological Solution

2001-04-28 Thread Tim May
At 9:43 PM -0500 4/28/01, Aimee Farr wrote: >Tim said: > > > * Keith Henson chose to post under his own name, to appear in person >> at COS offices and recruiting centers, to picket, and so on. He was >> not trying to be anonymous or pseudonymous, so your proposal above >> would be pointless i

RE: Technological Solution

2001-04-28 Thread Aimee Farr
Tim said: > At 2:24 PM -0500 4/28/01, Aimee Farr wrote: > >Reading the IMC gag order, Henson, the latest anonymous poster stuff, and > >Tim et. al. beating my head in pavement > > > >Since many forums don't allow for 'nymity, (or people just don't), what > >about a protected/offshore self-des

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-28 Thread Tim May
I wrote: --- If you plan to stay on this list, I think it's long past time that you spend several hours reviewing past developments in these areas. (You see, the "quick review" process is much better than the method you suggested re: economics, that people read the main textbooks. People don