Re: Fw: Others are protecting freedom of speech too.

2000-09-29 Thread Ulf Möller
On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 11:41:52PM -0400, Bill Stewart wrote: > It looks newspaperish, but doesn't indicate (AP) or (NYTimes) or whatever. > If it's a newspaper that takes replying letters to the editor, > or at least to the author, it deserves a reply. According to Google, W. Wayt Gibbs <[EMAIL

Re: Fw: Others are protecting freedom of speech too.

2000-09-29 Thread Bill Stewart
Marcel - did the original posting to the mh_mirror or freenet-chat lists indicate where the article was from? If you removed it, could you send me the originals? It looks newspaperish, but doesn't indicate (AP) or (NYTimes) or whatever. If it's a newspaper that takes replying letters to the edito

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2000-09-29 Thread Bill Stewart
At 07:57 AM 9/26/00 -0400, Sampo A Syreeni wrote: >I do not agree. I think shunning harms you regardless, if it is organized >well enough. Say, you do something which causes your whole town to shun >you. Where do you suppose you get food, shelter, whatever from there >on? You'd say 'just leave', h

RE: visor phone vs. starium?

2000-09-29 Thread Tim May
At 11:18 AM -0400 9/29/00, Trei, Peter wrote: > > >I have greater hopes for doing encrypted voice-over-ip, if we want >something that 's open source and user-verifiable. > A 3-way Cypherpunks physical meeting was DES-encrypted over the MBONE in 1993. Mountain View (CA), Cambridge (MA), and Vienn

Re: More Columbine fall-out

2000-09-29 Thread Alan Olsen
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Steven Furlong wrote: > Schools must give police blueprints > > ALBANY - Schools will be required to submit copies of their building > plans to local police and fire departments under legislation recently > signed into law by Gov. George Pataki. > > The legislation, propose

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Re: AES winner to be announced Monday.

2000-09-29 Thread Tim May
At 6:36 PM -0400 9/29/00, Paulo S. L. M. Barreto wrote: >On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Trei, Peter wrote: > >> They (explicitly) won't say yet how many algorithms >> have been chosen as the AES. > >So NIST will be silent for three more days. How about the finalist >submitters? >Did *they* tell anything

Re: More Columbine fall-out

2000-09-29 Thread Steve Furlong
Reese wrote: > > At 05:09 PM 29/09/00 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > >On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Steven Furlong wrote: > > > >> Schools must give police blueprints > > > >Wow, in Texas you can't even build a building or house until the > >blueprints are registered. Normaly you can't get the permits n

Re: AES winner to be announced Monday.

2000-09-29 Thread Paulo S. L. M. Barreto
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Trei, Peter wrote: > They (explicitly) won't say yet how many algorithms > have been chosen as the AES. So NIST will be silent for three more days. How about the finalist submitters? Did *they* tell anything? I'll bet NIST has contacted (or will contact) them regarding the

On remaining silent.

2000-09-29 Thread A. Melon
I've just been doing a bit of research on admissibility of pre- and post-arrest silence of an accused in the US. In light of RIP, I dug through some info on the UK's Miranda equivalent: In the UK, Home Office guidelines for police formerly called for a warning upon arrest, "You do not have to sa

Re: AES winner to be announced Monday.

2000-09-29 Thread Helger Lipmaa
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Trei, Peter wrote: > I can't get the web page myself, but the appended message > is in sci.crypt today: I got the next email. Helger http://www.tml.hut.fi/~helger Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:13:17 -0400 X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Jim Foti

AES winner to be announced Monday.

2000-09-29 Thread Trei, Peter
I can't get the web page myself, but the appended message is in sci.crypt today: Peter Trei X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Jim Gillogly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1:03 PM Subject: Re: Deadline for AES... Tim Tyler wrote: > No official announcement of the date has been posted yet

RE: Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, oh, my...

2000-09-29 Thread Trei, Peter
> -- > From: Michael Motyka[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Using an embedded system is not a new topic here. I think its the only > viable method of securing data. > > On that note, given the little wireless gizmo of Tim's description, the > device could have, via appropriate applica

RE: Bad Coding Practices

2000-09-29 Thread Trei, Peter
> -- > From: Steven Furlong[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To: Steven Furlong > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 9:00 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Bad Coding Practices > > "Trei, Peter" wrote: > > <> > > > 2. Individual treachery. > >

Re: More Columbine fall-out

2000-09-29 Thread Secret Squirrel
Steven Furlong wrote: > ALBANY - Schools will be required to submit copies of their building > plans to local police and fire departments under legislation recently > signed into law by Gov. George Pataki. I wonder if this includes home schools.

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Re: Algorithm queston.

2000-09-29 Thread David Honig
At 11:05 AM 9/29/00 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: >To correct my ignorance on current cryptography issues, I have been browsing >the archives. Some time ago, there was quite a bit of talk about the MISTY >algorithm, although I did not chance upon any pointers to an actual >implementation. Since t

Re: Algorithm queston.

2000-09-29 Thread Steven Furlong
Steve Thompson wrote: > To correct my ignorance on current cryptography issues, I have been browsing > the archives. Some time ago, there was quite a bit of talk about the MISTY > algorithm, although I did not chance upon any pointers to an actual > implementation. Since the character of the mes

RE: visor phone vs. starium?

2000-09-29 Thread Trei, Peter
> -- > A. Melon[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] writes: > from the clueless dept: > > Why would I want a PDA-phone hybrid? > > > Why do I have the uneasy feeling the newly announced > > Motorola/Palm product, due in 2002, may end up combining > > everything Palm knows about cell phones with ev

Re: Bad Coding Practices

2000-09-29 Thread Steven Furlong
David Honig wrote: > In yesterday's news the FAA was getting abuse for hiring lots > of furriner-contractors with lapsed clearances to do y2k and other work. > The feds fear the same subversion that citizens fear of the NSA. I didn't see yesterday's news, but I've been watching this little would-

Re: Bad Coding Practices

2000-09-29 Thread David Honig
At 09:00 PM 9/28/00 -0400, Steven Furlong wrote: >"Trei, Peter" wrote: > ><> > >> 2. Individual treachery. >> >> This type involves corrupting one or more engineers, whether via money, >> threats, or misplaced appeals to patriotism. This is more likely to >> succeed in the short term than type 1,

More Columbine fall-out

2000-09-29 Thread Steven Furlong
Schools must give police blueprints ALBANY - Schools will be required to submit copies of their building plans to local police and fire departments under legislation recently signed into law by Gov. George Pataki. The legislation, proposed by Assemblyman Ronald Canestrari, D-Cohoes, was inspire

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