Re: judges needing killing...

2000-10-20 Thread Tim May
At 6:47 PM -0400 10/19/00, Ray Dillinger wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, jim bell wrote: Naturally, a chemical solution (pun not directly intended...but I'll take it anyway) becomes apparent. If the ultimate motivation of the car siezures is to sell them and keep the money, what would happen if

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-20 Thread Sampo A Syreeni
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Tim May wrote: Maybe it's just me, but "suing their asses off" would hardly suffice...there's a long, and getting longer every day, list of abuses for which the only remedy I can imagine would be a car bomb incinerating one or all of the offenders. You live in a universe

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-20 Thread Sampo A Syreeni
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Tim May wrote: "Bob, I see here that you are "demanding" a copy of this test that I paid for, that you voluntarily provided a sample for, or that you were careless enough to leave some skin flakes for on my sofa over there in the office. The first two parts: ok by all

Re: FidoNet II

2000-10-20 Thread Tom Vogt
Tim May wrote: First, if you're going to attempt a "FidoNet II," at least use link encryption at every stage. that goes without saying, doesn't it? Second, so long as one has done the above, might as well make each node an actual remailer. With all of the usual mixing of in/out packets,

Re: Subway (was I created the Al Gore created the Internet )

2000-10-20 Thread Sampo A Syreeni
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Harmon Seaver wrote: At least -- but it's still subject to traffic analysis to discover who the perps are, on both ends. And yes, phones can be tapped too, but it's more difficult, takes more effort, warrants (at least here, so far). But I've been thinking more about

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Re: judges needing killing...

2000-10-20 Thread Declan McCullagh
My employer is running a deal right now in which we can wrap our car in ads in exchange for X shares of stock, strike price current price of the shares. Even if there's a modest $Y increase in share value, X*Y will amount to many times the cost of most cars. So what companies should do is try to

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-20 Thread David Honig
At 05:08 AM 10/20/00 -0400, petro wrote: It is "immoral" to commit murder. Is this because God Says So, or because it's generally better for society if we can assume that the vast majority of people *won't* be trying to shoot us? Neither are worthwhile reasons. Others' right to exist

Re: Insurance (was: why should it be trusted?)

2000-10-20 Thread David Honig
At 04:00 AM 10/20/00 -0400, petro wrote: Lots of socialists to be dealt with and disposed of. I wonder who will stoke the furnaces? Robots? Amusing cross-language double-entendre there, Petro. Robot is from "slave", in Czech IIRC.

It's all property, folks (was Re: Insurance (was: why

2000-10-20 Thread David Honig
At 07:51 AM 10/20/00 -0400, Sampo A Syreeni wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, R. A. Hettinga wrote: My lungs are property. If some one injures them, I have a tort. I don'tô even need legislation. Well, you are apparently the one doing the damage - who the fuck told you to breathe in the first place?

Re: FidoNet II

2000-10-20 Thread Tim May
At 12:28 PM -0400 10/20/00, Harmon Seaver wrote: All the wireless LAN/WAN stuff uses encryption, altho only 128bit AFAIK. However, do crypto-anarchists really care what the FCC says? When/if crypto email is outlawed on the net, will packet pirates give a rat's ass whether it's legal

Re: Insurance (was: why should it be trusted?)

2000-10-20 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 12:31 PM -0400 on 10/20/00, David Honig wrote: Amusing cross-language double-entendre there, Petro. Robot is from "slave", in Czech IIRC. Slave, being, of course, an Anglo-Latin(Italian?) derivation of, heh, Slav. ;-). Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-20 Thread Matt Elliott
As to care, as I've said a lot before, care is most often more expensive than coverage. Clearly this can't be true or every health insurance company would be going out of business. Coverage has to be more expensive than care of they wouldn't be in the business of providing coverage.

Re: why should it be trusted?

2000-10-20 Thread brflgnk
It was said: -- begin quote -- As to care, as I've said a lot before, care is most often more expensive than coverage. Clearly this can't be true or every health insurance company would be going out of business. Coverage has to be more expensive than care of they wouldn't be in the business of

It's all property, folks (was Re: Insurance (was: why

2000-10-20 Thread Sampo A Syreeni
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, David Honig wrote: Well, you are apparently the one doing the damage - who the fuck told you to breathe in the first place? You *are* paying your Kyoto II Individual Carbon Dioxide Emission Tax to the UN, aren't you? Oh, I'm waiting anxiously for the opportunity. I so