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Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-07-30 Thread mmotyka
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Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-07-30 Thread Black Unicorn
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Black Unicorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 1:47 PM Subject: Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas > Black Unicorn wrote: > > No. Well hidden

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RE: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-07-30 Thread Trei, Peter
> -- > From: Black Unicorn[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > Declan, > > The larger problem notwithstanding there's at least one little bit of > > language in this piece that is odd : > > > > "He said the government is > >seeking all of Legg

Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-07-30 Thread Black Unicorn
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas > Declan, > > The larger problem notwithstanding there's at least one little bit of

Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-07-30 Thread mmotyka
Declan, The larger problem notwithstanding there's at least one little bit of language in this piece that is odd : "He said the government is seeking all of Leggett's material, including all originals and copies." Even if we make the extreme assumption that there is some pressing

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Re: Findlaw: The New York Times and Napster

2001-07-30 Thread Steve Schear
At 01:29 PM 7/30/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: >http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20010730_chander.html It will be very interesting if Napster decides to take Mr. Chander's suggestion and ask the court to force copyright holder's back to the table and compel them to negotiate or face an a

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2001-07-30 Thread Steve Schear
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2001-07-30 Thread Jim Choate
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Re: Pointers to news sources and other mailing lists

2001-07-30 Thread Black Unicorn
Maybe we should form [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? [EMAIL PROTECTED]? - Original Message - From: "Tim May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:28 AM Subject: Pointers to news sources and other mailing lists > I've noticed that about 90% of traffic to the

Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism

2001-07-30 Thread mmotyka
I'm really not completely clued-in to all of the publishing options but my gut instinct says that the more rapid and widespread the dispersal the better. The originator of proscribed information needs to be anonymous but it seems that if the recipients are many and diverse then the level of guilt

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Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime

2001-07-30 Thread Black Unicorn
- Original Message - From: "Petro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:53 AM Subject: Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime > At 7:20 AM -0500 7/26/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Petro

Pointers to news sources and other mailing lists

2001-07-30 Thread Tim May
I've noticed that about 90% of traffic to the Cypherpunks list, at least the slightly-filtered list at lne.com, is now one-line pointers to news on Yahoo, CNN, ABC, LA Times, and to articles on Slashdot, Politech, Extropians, Cryptography, and other such Net outlets. If I wanted to subscribed

RE: POLL: Ohio "Thought Crime?"

2001-07-30 Thread Matthew Gaylor
At 7:56 AM -0400 7/30/01, Paul McMasters wrote: >From: Paul McMasters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Matthew Gaylor'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: POLL: Ohio "Thought Crime?" >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 07:56:58 -0400 > >Brian Dalton, as I understand it, was convicted of pandering

Re: Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime

2001-07-30 Thread Petro
At 7:20 AM -0500 7/26/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Petro wrote: > >> >> >a great majority of an LEO's "education" time is spent instructing them on >> >how to determine [decide] what is and is not constitutionally protected >> >{speech, action}. If they did not use this "ab

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Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism + 802.11b access

2001-07-30 Thread Ray Dillinger
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Mr. Wienke, help me out on this -- Re: FW: General Ashcroft make his move

2001-07-30 Thread Richard Stevens
--- Jonathan Wienke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I get the NRA's American Rifleman magazine. The July > issue also has > an article about Ashcroft's letter, which does not > quote the rather > lengthy footnote. However, it does contain a legible > image of BOTH > pages of the letter, including

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New Singapore surveillance software can detect abnormal behaviour(fwd)

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Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism

2001-07-30 Thread Eugene Leitl
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Unless I'm mistaken a node keeps a reference ( even if only temorarily > ) to the originating node when data is added. So if I publish > sooper-infringer.tar.gz and the neighboring node that gets it is a > narc I'm screwed. Identify your dissidents a

Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism

2001-07-30 Thread Eugene Leitl
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Unless I'm mistaken a node keeps a reference ( even if only temorarily > ) to the originating node when data is added. So if I publish > sooper-infringer.tar.gz and the neighboring node that gets it is a > narc I'm screwed. Identify your dissidents a

RE: General Ashcroft make his move

2001-07-30 Thread Jonathan Wienke
Title: RE: General Ashcroft make his move -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I get the NRA's American Rifleman magazine. The July issue also has an article about Ashcroft's letter, which does not quote the rather lengthy footnote. However, it does contain a legible image of BOTH p

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2001-07-30 Thread Eugene Leitl
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Subcommander Bob wrote: > Damnit, Alan, if you had prompted Leitl to say that you could have had > the retort: > "Careful with that axe, Eugene." I will. (Hey, it's my favourite).

Re: On the turning away of hackers

2001-07-30 Thread Eugene Leitl
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Subcommander Bob wrote: > Damnit, Alan, if you had prompted Leitl to say that you could have had > the retort: > "Careful with that axe, Eugene." I will. (Hey, it's my favourite).

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