Extraterritorial surveillance.

2001-09-25 Thread Aimee Farr
George: On 24 Sep 2001, at 17:49, Robert wrote: It is not a crime for an agency of another country to eavesdrop on you as long as they are physically located outside the U.S. Similarly, it is not illegal for a US agency to intercept messages in another country, as long as they do it

Re: Intercepts foretold of 'big attack' -- The Washington Times

2001-09-25 Thread Matthew Gaylor
At 3:51 PM -0700 9/24/01, Tim May wrote: The Moonies also own my favorite handgun maker: Kahr Arms. (At least this was so about a year ago. I haven't checked to see if they are still the owners.) Better owned by the Moonies than by the Commies. They also own PMC ammo. For a more comprehensive

re: [texas-hpr] ATF letter (fwd)

2001-09-25 Thread citizenQ
BATF planted that post as a troll so then they could peek at the IP of anybody hitting that URL, knowing they came from [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Club Inferno [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [texas-hpr] ATF letter (fwd)

Fwd: FW: there is no Keyser Soze

2001-09-25 Thread Bill Stewart
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 02:13:47 -0700 Subject: there is no Keyser Soze From: Faisal Jawdat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001320012-2001330486,00.html Article too long for me to meaningfully excerpt from. It

British SAS in Afghanistan

2001-09-25 Thread Neil Johnson
A couple of British Newspapers are reporting that a British SAS unit exchanged fire with Taleban soldiers in Afghanistan. The Herlad Sun: http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,2919672%255E661,00 .html From the BBC:

Re: Democracy is our enemy

2001-09-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 03:22:34AM -, Anonymous wrote: There was an article the other day about the terrorists, which made the point that capitalism and fundamentalism were much alike, in that both share a distrust of democracy. The same can be said for the cypherpunks. Difference:

Re: Democracy is our enemy

2001-09-25 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 03:22:34AM -, Anonymous ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thomas Leavitt writes: There was an article the other day about the terrorists, which made the point that capitalism and fundamentalism were much alike, in that both share a distrust of democracy. I can think of

Re: [texas-hpr] ATF letter (fwd)

2001-09-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
Not Found The requested URL was not found on this server. Please check the filename requested and/or the link that you followed. On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 10:27:45PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 01:20:32 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Democracy is our enemy

2001-09-25 Thread Steve Furlong
Anonymous wrote: There was an article the other day about the terrorists, which made the point that capitalism and fundamentalism were much alike, in that both share a distrust of democracy. The same can be said for the cypherpunks. No wonder that so many here have expressed vitriolic

Re: Democracy is our enemy

2001-09-25 Thread keyser-soze
At 03:22 AM 9/25/2001 +, Anonymous wrote: Thomas Leavitt writes: I'm tired of hearing my fellow Americans referred to as cowards, weaklings, sheep, ignorant, easily mislead - this is a profoundly undemocratic sentiment, the same kind of crap spewed by totalitarian and authoritarian

ACTION: Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001

2001-09-25 Thread Matthew Gaylor
http://www.indefenseoffreedom.org/action.html URGENT ACTION ALERT The Administration's proposed Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001 is currently scheduled for mark-up by the House Judiciary Committee tomorrow (Tuesday) morning. It is critical that consideration of the legislation be delayed until the

Re: FC: Sen. Hollings plans to introduce DMCA sequel:

2001-09-25 Thread keyser-soze
At 04:58 PM 9/24/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote: On Monday, September 24, 2001, at 03:08 PM, Thomas Leavitt wrote: I'm tired of hearing my fellow Americans referred to as cowards, weaklings, sheep, ignorant, easily mislead - this is a profoundly undemocratic sentiment, the same kind of crap spewed

Re: ACTION: SUCCESS! Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001

2001-09-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
At 08:47 PM 9/25/01 -0700, Alan wrote: Until they wait until people look the other way and then sneak it past. (Like every other privacy-rapeing bill over the last ten years.) They won't wait that long. Folks in Congress mostly seem to be making the right noises so they won't be accused of

No Regrets About Shamelessly Exploiting National Tragedy For My Own PerQ Gain.

2001-09-25 Thread Frog2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 C'punks, Phil Zimmermann did not ask me to post this. He would not like it freely disseminated, so feel free to post it wherever you wish. l a i n No Regrets About Shamelessly Exploiting National Tragedy For My Own Personal Gain. This Friday