How Much is your House Payment?

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AL Digital Acquires Second Nuclear Bunker

2001-10-01 Thread Bill Scannell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE AL Digital Acquires Second Nuclear Bunker Doubles Space Available for Security of Computer Assets London, UK (1 October 2001) AL Digital (Telecommunications), Ltd., a leading provider of secure computer

Re: your mail

2001-10-01 Thread CDR Anonymizer
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Interested in contributing to women's research?

2001-10-01 Thread pistol3000
Title: Subject Line Exclusively for Women Interested in contributing to women's research??? Research Study for Prevention of Osteoporosis Past exclusion of women from clinical trials has limited knowledge of

New UK anti-terrorism powers to be rushed through.

2001-10-01 Thread Tolan Blundell
The UK gov't is trying to push through new anti terrorism measures, including id cards, indefinite detention of suspected terrorists, and there's more talk of key escrow too.. from the Gaurdian : http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labour2001/story/0,1414,561052,00.html [snip] Concerns about the

NYPOST.COM World News: DATA POURING IN FASTER THAN NSA CAN DECIPHER IT By GREG SEIGLE

2001-10-01 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/5334.htm -- -- The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. Edmund Burke (1784) The Armadillo Group

Re: [FREE] stratfor (fwd)

2001-10-01 Thread Ken Brown
Karsten M. Self wrote: There are stateless nations (e.g.: Palestine), and states which are host to people of several nations (e.g.: the Swiss Federation). In fact it is the normal condition. China, India, Russia, Indonesia, Iran, and even our very own UK. All put together, well over half

Re: [FREE] stratfor (fwd)

2001-10-01 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 04:11:21PM -0400, James B. DiGriz wrote: What I find interesting is how we can have a war without a Congressional declaration, which out of practical if not legal necessity requires something at least approximating a foreign power as the enemy. It would be

Re: Baltimore Digital Commerce Society-- Korhammer on Lava Trading, Nov 6

2001-10-01 Thread John Young
Peter Wayner wrote: But please come to listen to hear about their company not about the WTC. But when do we hear about the really important stuff the company employees learned from 80 feet away, to hell with hearing more online trivia of phonexing the ashes. Not that the lucky CEO knows any

Re: [FREE] stratfor (fwd)

2001-10-01 Thread Jim Dixon
On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 04:11:21PM -0400, James B. DiGriz wrote: What I find interesting is how we can have a war without a Congressional declaration, which out of practical if not legal necessity requires something at least approximating

Re: Baltimore Digital Commerce Society-- Korhammer on Lava Trading, Nov 6

2001-10-01 Thread Peter Wayner
At 9:53 AM -0700 10/1/01, John Young wrote: Peter Wayner wrote: But please come to listen to hear about their company not about the WTC. But when do we hear about the really important stuff the company employees learned from 80 feet away, to hell with hearing more online trivia of phonexing the

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread Harmon Seaver
Declan McCullagh wrote: Until Sep. 11, at least, we may have adopted a cost-benefit approach. Non-oil fuels are far more expensive, Not true at all. Biodiesel is being marketed in the US today at competitive prices, and obviously, like anything else, economies of scale would bring

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread Eugene Leitl
On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: Not true at all. Biodiesel is being marketed in the US today at competitive prices, and obviously, like anything else, economies of scale would bring down that price. Ethanol is another one. Brazil run Biodiesel and bioethanol are horribly inefficient

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread Subcommander Bob
At 03:48 PM 9/30/01 -0700, Steve Schear wrote: and you know that junkies will do whatever it takes to get their next fix. Hey, you should have seen what California was paying for hits of natural gas early in the summer... As long as you get a reliable, clean supply you can be healthy

Re: [FREE] stratfor (fwd)

2001-10-01 Thread Subcommander Bob
At 04:08 PM 9/30/01 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: This is IMHO naive. Have you ever been in a brawl? Have you ever been in a brawl where one side (or both) has friends? Balkans, just before WWI. Poison gas followed that one (too).

Re: [FREE] stratfor (fwd)

2001-10-01 Thread David Honig
At 03:30 PM 9/30/01 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: I have to admit being somewhat confused myself over just what distinctions there are between a formal declaration, and a vote of support such as we saw following the 9/11 attacks. I believe a formal declaration would entail far more Presidential

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 09:55:34AM -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: Besides which, the true cost of gasoline at the pump would be $10-15 @ gallon without all the gov't subsidies to the oil industry. I think this canard has been debunked on the list in the last week. The current cost (say,

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread James B. DiGriz
Declan McCullagh wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 09:55:34AM -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: Besides which, the true cost of gasoline at the pump would be $10-15 @ gallon without all the gov't subsidies to the oil industry. I think this canard has been debunked on the list in the last

Re: [FREE] stratfor (fwd)

2001-10-01 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 08:25:08AM -0700, David Honig wrote: Yes. Though these days they have Emergency Powers for everything, and chronic, continually extended 'Emergencies'. I've always enjoyed the regular declarations of emergencies required to keep the encryption export control regime

Re: [FREE] stratfor (fwd)

2001-10-01 Thread Greg Newby
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 01:38:23PM -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 08:25:08AM -0700, David Honig wrote: Yes. Though these days they have Emergency Powers for everything, and chronic, continually extended 'Emergencies'. I've always enjoyed the regular declarations

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread Steve Schear
At 10:13 AM 10/1/2001 -0400, you wrote: Until Sep. 11, at least, we may have adopted a cost-benefit approach. Non-oil fuels are far more expensive, and more radical approaches like wiring homes for solar would be quite intrusive and also expensive. While I agree that all non-oil energy has,

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread Steve Schear
At 04:30 PM 10/1/2001 -0400, James B. DiGriz wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James B. DiGriz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : snip Declan's note about ADM hogs at the trough with lots of other hogs... A far more productive application of corporate welfare would be if that money were spent on

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread Harmon Seaver
Eric Murray wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 09:55:34AM -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: Besides which, the true cost of gasoline at the pump would be $10-15 @ gallon without all the gov't subsidies to the oil industry. http://www.icta.org/projects/trans/rlprexsm.htm The study says

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread Jim Windle
On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:33:41Declan McCullagh wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 09:55:34AM -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: Besides which, the true cost of gasoline at the pump would be $10-15 @ gallon without all the gov't subsidies to the oil industry. I think this canard has been debunked

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread georgemw
On 1 Oct 2001, at 11:05, Eric Murray wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 09:55:34AM -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: Besides which, the true cost of gasoline at the pump would be $10-15 @ gallon without all the gov't subsidies to the oil industry.

Re: [FREE] stratfor (fwd)

2001-10-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 08:37:30AM -0700, Subcommander Bob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 04:08 PM 9/30/01 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: This is IMHO naive. Have you ever been in a brawl? Have you ever been in a brawl where one side (or both) has friends? Balkans, just before WWI.

Re: Lesson from WTC: Question Authority

2001-10-01 Thread mmotyka
On 9-11 I was awake at 5:30 AM PST reading the paper and watching CNN. Predictably I was glued to the news until past noon. When I finally made it into work I was here about an hour or two when I was told that someone had phoned in a bomb threat. The official advice from the PD was essentially

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:57:18AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 1 Oct 2001, at 11:05, Eric Murray wrote: Not to mention things like travel delays due to road congestion ($46.5 to $174.6 billion), which not only would still exist with electric cars, but is a cost

America needs aromatherapy

2001-10-01 Thread Tim May
On Monday, October 1, 2001, at 12:32 PM, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:57:18AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 1 Oct 2001, at 11:05, Eric Murray wrote: Not to mention things like travel delays due to road congestion ($46.5 to $174.6 billion),

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread James B. DiGriz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James B. DiGriz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : snip Declan's note about ADM hogs at the trough with lots of other hogs... A far more productive application of corporate welfare would be if that money were spent on engineering research and development of geosynchronous

Brinworld: citizens with speed-radar

2001-10-01 Thread Khoder bin Hakkin
http://web.star-telegram.com/content/fortworth/2001/10/01/arlnews/fw010408-1001-XB001-speeders.htm ARLINGTON - Alice Pelfrey has taken aim at speeders in her neighborhood, and her efforts have really slowed them down. Armed with a police radar gun and a clipboard, Pelfrey and other Plaza

Taxpatriates Page Updated

2001-10-01 Thread Duncan Frissell
In spite of the war, the Feds finally issued the 4Q 2000 and the 1Q 2Q 2001 Taxpatrates lists some months late on September 24th. See: http://frissell.com/taxpat/taxpats.html I trust that their inefficiency doesn't extend to tax collections. I've updated the various .csv and Palm OS

OFF TOPIC: Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread Eugene Leitl
This is about as off-topic as the mold issue. You've been warned. On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: Biodiesel and bioethanol are horribly inefficient as far as conversion of solar energy and agricultural area is concerned. Large scale agriculture is not exactly environmentally

Re: Brinworld: citizens with speed-radar

2001-10-01 Thread Nomen Nescio
According to collected data, the average speed in 30 mph zones ranged from 35.5 to 46 mph. In the 35 mph zones, the average speed was about 43 mph. The highest speed, clocked by Colonial Estates East Citizens on Patrol group, was 62 mph in a 30 mph zone. Too bad this wasn't California.

EXTENDED 48 HOURS! Free links seats Manuf Prod/Cntl

2001-10-01 Thread jbsptrsft88
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2001-10-01 Thread jbsptrsft88
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\Trust In Government Surges During Crisis\

2001-10-01 Thread auto301094
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- (I know this reads like a bad troll, but thought you'd want to see it anyway...) Washington Post September 30, 2001 Federal Diary Trust In Government Surges During Crisis; Challenge Is To Keep It From Ebbing By Stephen Barr The liberals trust the

Re: NYPOST.COM World News: DATA POURING IN FASTER THAN NSA CAN DECIPHER IT By GREG SEIGLE

2001-10-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 07:28:56AM -0500, Jim Choate ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/5334.htm A suggestion I've made before in other circles: Open source the data. There are clearly a few wrinkles to be worked out, but there are some inflection points that

Re: Just Say So?

2001-10-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 01:24:29PM -0700, Tim May ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: When confronted with calls to Do something! or We can't just stand by and watch!, I think of one word: So? There's an alternative formulation: Don't just do something. Stand there. The gist is the same.

Text of Ashcroft Anti-Terrorism act?

2001-10-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know if the updated text of the proposed Anti-Terrorism act has been published? The NYT reports Ashcroft urging a vote by next week: http://archives.nytimes.com/2001/10/01/national/01SECU.html No substance on the bill itself.

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread David Honig
At 11:33 AM 10/1/01 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: As for ethanol, which you cite, if it's so splendid an alternative, one would think that ADM could survive without such lavish corporate welfare. http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa241es.html You shouldn't hold pork-politics against a technology.

Operation Lingering Pain (Re: [FREE] stratfor (fwd))

2001-10-01 Thread Subcommander Bob
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 08:25:08AM -0700, David Honig wrote: Yes. Though these days they have Emergency Powers for everything, and chronic, continually extended 'Emergencies'. I've always enjoyed the regular declarations of emergencies required to keep the encryption export control

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread Harmon Seaver
Declan McCullagh wrote: I think this canard has been debunked on the list in the last week. No, it wasn't debunked at all -- no evidence was given, only unsupported suppositions. If you only take one subsidy alone, the military cost, oil has an absurd price, and that cost is rapidly

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread David Honig
At 11:05 AM 10/1/01 -0700, Eric Murray wrote: or even horse and buggy. Although I suppose that unlike a car's engine, when your horse fails, you can eat it. Not in California. Can't even sell it to Euros who like it. My religion doesn't let me eat sushi at the beach --JimB

Re: America needs therapy

2001-10-01 Thread Harmon Seaver
Eugene Leitl wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: Not true at all. Biodiesel is being marketed in the US today at competitive prices, and obviously, like anything else, economies of scale would bring down that price. Ethanol is another one. Brazil run Biodiesel and

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Baltimore Digital Commerce Society-- Korhammer on Lava Trading, Nov 6

2001-10-01 Thread Peter Wayner
This event was originally scheduled for October 2nd, but it is being pushed back to November 6th because Lava Trading used to be located on the 83rd floor of the WTC. Richard Korhammer's office was only 50 feet away from where the plane hit. Miraculously all of the company survived. Korhammer