Scholarships / Education Financial Aid....

2001-10-23 Thread d4292
The Education Financial Aid/Scholarship E-Book Helps you understand the financial aid process. Describes the various types of aid available. Provides helpful tips on how, when and where to apply. Gives you links to federal and state agencies governing education aid. Outlines degree

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2001-10-23 Thread betme16
Title: THESE TIMES OF TROUBLE HAVE MADE US ALL REALIZE THAT LIFE IS MORE PRECIOUS THESE TIMES OF TROUBLE HAVE US ALL REALIZING THAT LIFE IS PRECIOUS There Are Thousands of Others, JUST LIKE YOU, Looking To

Re: Farm Out! (was Re: Retribution not enough)

2001-10-23 Thread Harmon Seaver
Tim May wrote: On Monday, October 22, 2001, at 11:05 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote: Ish! I'm getting bummed with NS, but wouldn't use IE on a bet. Why use a virus magnet? The virii are typically executables for x86/Windows machines, not Macs. You said you were using a Mac, so why do you

Re: USPS: glowing by leaps and bounds

2001-10-23 Thread Harmon Seaver
Shit, so much for ordering mushroom spores by mail! Hopefully UPS and fedex won't follow suit. -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html

Cypherpunks idiots list

2001-10-23 Thread Nomen Nescio
Posters to the cypherpunks list can be divided into idiots and others. Idiots seldom contribute anything useful and love to fasten onto threads which require no more than their uninformed opinions. Interestingly, many of the idiots work at low-paying jobs like system administration, and several

Re: eWe Won't Have CJ Parker and Richard NIxon To Kick Around AnyMore...

2001-10-23 Thread Steve Furlong
Declan McCullagh wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 11:32:19PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: I can't sympathise much on this basis. A family member, a retired cop and the family shame, confirmed what I had suspected: that most people in jail are there because they couldn't keep their mouths

Re: FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent

2001-10-23 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 09:04:44PM -0500, Jon Beets wrote: This appears total BS to me... While I don't doubt some agents do at times conduct their own idea of interrogation I sincerely doubt that the FBI as a whole would be considering this... Yes, journalists like those at the Times and the

Wolfowitz, Calling For Great Caution, Limits DoD Employees' Discussions

2001-10-23 Thread auto301094
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- The interesting thing about this is the new crackdown on non-classified information in the private sector under the umbrella provision persons in other organizations that support DoD. Of course each contractor has the right to set what's acceptable and what

Re: Cypherpunks idiots list

2001-10-23 Thread Harmon Seaver
And the others that didn't even get mentioned -- what category do you rate them? So are we idiots supposed to feel crushed by this and slink away, never to be heard from again? Or should we just try harder? Or maybe simply double/triple/quadruple the volume of our posts to achieve

Re: Cypherpunks idiots list

2001-10-23 Thread Steve Furlong
Nomen Nescio wrote: Posters to the cypherpunks list can be divided into idiots and others. ... The lists below can't cover everyone, but here is a sampling of recent posters. Note: if you are an idiot, you may not like being informed of this fact. Nevertheless you will find few non-idiots

Re: FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent

2001-10-23 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 08:50:01PM -0700, Tim May wrote: Yes, but this is one of those manufactured, utterly implausible situations. I cannot think of a single instance where a suspect had this kind of knowledge, with this kind of stakes, and with this kind of next three hours timetable.

Neverending Cycle ( was : Re: USPS: glowing by leaps and bounds )

2001-10-23 Thread mmotyka
Shit, so much for ordering mushroom spores by mail! Hopefully UPS and fedex won't follow suit. Another option might be for each package to be dropped into a poly bag, heat sealed and rinsed before being handled by staff. Our society has, for all practical purposes, endless vulnerabilities.

Re: Ananova - US researchers discover artificial sperm

2001-10-23 Thread Declan McCullagh
It is, of course, unfair to paint Nadine Strossen with the same brush you'd use with Andrea Dworkin. -Declan On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 11:12:33PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: Jim Choate wrote: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_430602.html?menu=news.latestheadlines Well, shit, don't

Re: Cypherpunks idiots list

2001-10-23 Thread Steve Furlong
Nomen Nescio wrote: Posters to the cypherpunks list can be divided into idiots and others. Something I forgot to mention: Nomen Nescio certainly belongs on the idiots list. There are an awful lot of really stupid messages coming from Nomen. (For the irony impaired, yes, I am aware that many

Re: Cypherpunks idiots list

2001-10-23 Thread auto301094
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Somebody behind a remailer wrote: Posters to the cypherpunks list can be divided into idiots and others. Posters to the cypherpunks list can be divided into those agitating on behalf of the united states federal government and others. Isn't attempting to turn

Re: Cypherpunks idiots list

2001-10-23 Thread Harmon Seaver
Rather amusing, when you think about it. Obviously the guy is too clueless to figure out how to use any sort of filter or killfile. -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html

Re: eWe Won't Have CJ Parker and Richard NIxon To Kick Around AnyMore...

2001-10-23 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 11:32:19PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: I can't sympathise much on this basis. A family member, a retired cop and the family shame, confirmed what I had suspected: that most people in jail are there because they couldn't keep their mouths shut --- on Um, no. Many are

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-23 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 11:02:03PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: I disagree. Feinstein et al aren't cooperating with Big Brother in hopes of better treatment. They _are_ Big Brother. If any U.S. politician qualifies for that title, two high-profile senators and a man who came closer than anyone

Re: FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent

2001-10-23 Thread mmotyka
Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 08:50:01PM -0700, Tim May wrote: Yes, but this is one of those manufactured, utterly implausible situations. I cannot think of a single instance where a suspect had this kind of knowledge, with this kind of stakes, and with

Re: eWe Won't Have CJ Parker and Richard NIxon To Kick Around AnyMore...

2001-10-23 Thread georgemw
On 23 Oct 2001, at 14:13, Steve Furlong wrote: Declan McCullagh wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 11:32:19PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: I can't sympathise much on this basis. A family member, a retired cop and the family shame, confirmed what I had suspected: that most people in

Re: Cypherpunks idiot list

2001-10-23 Thread Nomen Nescio
Of course I know how to use a killfile! I killfiled all you idiots long ago, but your names and trivial ideas keep getting quoted by all the important people, AND I JUST CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE!. Have you no shame, how can you dare to even show your face on a list like this, you stupid,

anon

2001-10-23 Thread Anonymous
Does this remailer work anymore?

Re: WSJ on Safety Before Liberty

2001-10-23 Thread Julian Assange
Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, among others. But claims that after the crises passed civil liberties were restored stronger than ever. So fear not what is in the offing. Post-war US liberties were usually restored after apalling abuses by the mendacious followed by intensive lobbing by civil

Re: Cypherpunks idiots list

2001-10-23 Thread Josh Peck
I very rarely post, so I am reveling in my mediocrity... -josh Harmon Seaver wrote: And the others that didn't even get mentioned -- what category do you rate them? So are we idiots supposed to feel crushed by this and slink away, never to be heard from again? Or should we just

RE: Conman, quantum entaglement and no cat

2001-10-23 Thread Sandy Sandfort
C'punks, Penn says Copperfield's trick is Right out of the books. He goes on to say that it's just a matter of presentation. But we all knew that, right? S a n d y

Is there a subway in DC?

2001-10-23 Thread Khoder bin Hakkin
And why are NYC prison^H^H^H^H^H^Hinhabitants still taking subways? http://books.nap.edu/books/0309068495/html/223.html#pagetop

Re: Why Plan-9 licensing?

2001-10-23 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote: The trend in free software licensing has been strong reluctance to accepting novel licenses. Right, that's why there are so many of them out there... Interaction for who, the author or the user? Interaction between licenses. It's more

Re: fanaticism, left anarchists, and CACLing

2001-10-23 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Luthor Blisset wrote: [1] They don't like either corporate or state centralization of power, but neither do you, right? Right...? AFIAK, Left-anarchists and CACL types oppose corporate and governmental centralization of power - it's just that the left-anarchists

Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-23 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Ken Brown wrote: David Honig wrote: No one forces a farmer to the city to look for an industrial job. In general, no. Bull, the people who don't purchase his goods at a price point he can sustain himself do in fact force him into other lines of work. 'Supply and

Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-23 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Sampo Syreeni wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Jim Choate wrote: * Low wage compared to _what_? What it takes to have reasonable living standards and sufficient resources to help ones children do better than themselves. Reasonable? Well, compared to dying of

RE: Retribution not enough

2001-10-23 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: Inchoate gets it wrong again. This is where that remedial reading course would come in handy. He wrote: The very basis of free market economies, one is rewarded FAIRLY for their efforts. No, quite clearly the basis of free market

Re: CDR: Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-23 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: Elementary - fair is whatever the parties in interest agree to. Period. 'agree' is synonymous with 'free' in this case. All you're doing is playing word games and hand waving. What does it mean to 'agree'? Is an agreement that one can backout

RE: Conman, quantum entaglement and no cat

2001-10-23 Thread Incognito Innominatus
Penn says Copperfield's trick is Right out of the books. He goes on to say that it's just a matter of presentation. But we all knew that, right? Of course. A moment's thought will make it clear that the list which was finally exhibited with the correct lottery numbers on it was not the same

Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-23 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, David Honig wrote: As the universe said to Thoreau's man, So? Adapt or die. Exactly, but pitching 'man against man' as synonymous as 'universe against man' is a disservice. They're not the same thing. One is a 'free market' and the other is the opposite. Of course